Re: So it is true...


Peter T. Daniels <grammatim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:43930D31.3D6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Paul J Kriha wrote:
> >
> > >Seán O'Leathlóbhair <jwlawler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > >news:1133626936.868675.165340@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [...]
> > >If you are offered British citizenship then you will need to swear an
> > >oath of allegiance but if you are born a citizen then this is not
> > >required. Rather oddly, when my brother was offered Australian
> > >citizenship, he was required to swear an oath of allegiance to the
> > >Queen of England even though he was already British.
> >
> > I don't think this is correct, Seán.
> > I swore a similar oath of allegiance some 33 years ago in NZ.
> > It was to the Queen Elizabeth the Second and her heirs
> > (well I said hairs, but nevermind).
> > The QE2 I was swearing my allegiance to was our queen
> > the Queen of New Zealand. I bet your brother was swearing
> > his allegiance to the Queen of Australia. At the moment
> > it happens to be the same person, but that may or may not
> > be the case in the future.
> >
> > I believe your brother couldn't have been swearing allegiance
> > to a Queen of England, i.e. legally a foreign person.
> >
> > BTW, when QE2 was being crowned she was asked,
> > and I quote:
> > "Do you solemly promise and swear to govern people
> > of United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,
> > Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Pakistan and Ceylon
> > according to their respective law and custom?"
> > She replied: "I solemly promise so to do."
> >
> > She did not become an empress.
> > She was crowned as head of the Commonwealth of Nations.
>
> You've just caused me to discover that my vocal score of the music for
> the Coronation (which includes the full text of the service) isn't on
> the shelf where it should be -- but I don't recall such a list of the
> Dominions. But you can't be quoting from an authoritative source, as
> you've omitted a couple of definite articles!

:-)
My source was one of the best there could be, an actual film
recording of the crowning ceremony in one of the episodes
of "British Empire in colour".

However, the actual process of "quoting" might not have been
100% reliable. I wrote the words down about three weeks ago
and since then I erased the episode from my PVR's hard disk.
I am surprised that the very slowly speaking Archbishop of C.
swallowed the articles. :-)
Admitedly, my primary goal was to record the list of kingdoms
(queendoms?) in the oath.

BTW, I believe (most of) the mentioned countries have not been
Dominions for a couple of generations or so. You may use
generic "dominions" but not "Dominions" as you did, and
certainly not "Colonies".

pjk

> Peter T. Daniels


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