Re: German Seen Spatially


"Bill Bonde ('Soli Deo Gloria')" <Pablo.Neruda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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> Alan wrote:
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>> "Bill Bonde ('Soli Deo Gloria')" >>
>> > "On" is logically two dimensional and "in" is three dimensional. I'm
>> > not
>> > sure about "at". I don't know about the argument though since English,
>> > for example, often says "in orbit" even though physically it is
>> > logically two dimensional. "in der Umlaufbahn" doesn't push back the
>> > argument either.
>>
>> What is so "logically two dimensional" about "on"? if something is "on"
>> something else, it means that no matter how close the physical contact,
>> it
>> is "above" it --- a notion which would require the assumption of 3
>> dimensions.
>>
> I think you are expressing a perception of a physicality, that "on"
> really means "above", into the claim that "on" is logically two
> dimensional. No matter how the real world actually is, "on", I think, is
> expressing the fundamentally two dimensional idea of motion or stillness
> about a plane. The instant you are not referring to the "on" item as in
> logical connection to that 2d surface, you change prepositions, to "in"
> or to "above", say.
I'm really trying to understand what you're saying. What do you mean when
you say "the fundamentally two dimensional idea of motion or stillness about
a plane" ---- what is "fundamentally 2 dimensional" about motion or
stillness, and what do you mean by "about a plane" ...... and if you're
"*not* referring to that "on" item in relation to the "2nd surface", then to
what surface is it then (*not*)in relation to? Forgive me if I'm a bit
dense, but please give me a couple examples, would you? (especially of the
case you're referring to in which you would change "on" to "in" or "above").
Thank you.


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