Re: Latin pronunciation puzzle


J. W. Love wrote:

> Various people wrote various things, and then Franz wrote:
> > Begin of a new discussion: is that curious monster of a bracket
> > a serious linguistic rendering? A more human version would then
> > be Attenborovai. The Latin -i turned into -ai. Is everybody, any
> > speaker of another language, forced to turn Latin -i into English
> > -ai ?
>
> What are you folks going on about? The method by which scientists
> derive species epithets from personal names follows internationally
> accepted rules. The zoological recommendations aren't at hand, but the
> International Code of Botanical Nomenclature (easily googled) includes
> Recommendation 60C:
>
> << 60C.1. Personal names may be given Latin terminations and used
> to form specific and infraspecific epithets as follows (but see Rec.
> 60C.2):
> (a) If the personal name ends with a vowel or -er, substantival
> epithets are formed by adding the genitive inflection appropriate to
> the sex and number of the person(s) honoured (e.g., scopoli-i for
> Scopoli (m), fedtschenko-i for Fedtschenko (m), fedtschenko-ae for
> Fedtschenko (f), glaziou-i for Glaziou (m), lace-ae for Lace (f),
> gray-i for Gray (m), hooker-orum for the Hookers (m), except when the
> name ends with -a, in which case adding -e (singular) or -rum (plural)
> is appropriate (e.g. triana-e for Triana (m), pojarkova-e for Pojarkova
> (f), orlovskaja-e for Orlovskaja (f)).
> (b) If the personal name ends with a consonant (except -er),
> substantival epithets are formed by adding -i- (stem augmentation) plus
> the genitive inflection appropriate to the sex and number of the
> person(s) honoured (e.g. lecard-ii for Lecard (m), wilson-iae for
> Wilson (f), verlot-iorum for the Verlot brothers, braun-iarum for the
> Braun sisters, mason-iorum for Mason, father and daughter).
> (c) If the personal name ends with a vowel, adjectival epithets
> are formed by adding -an- plus the nominative singular inflection
> appropriate to the gender of the generic name (e.g., Cyperus heyne-anus
> for Heyne, Vanda lindley-ana for Lindley, Aspidium bertero-anum for
> Bertero), except when the personal name ends with -a in which case -n-
> plus the appropriate inflection is added (e.g. balansa-nus (m),
> balansa-na (f), and balansa-num (n) for Balansa).
> (d) If the personal name ends with a consonant, adjectival
> epithets are formed by adding -i- (stem augmentation) plus -an- (stem
> of adjectival suffix) plus the nominative singular inflection
> appropriate to the gender of the generic name (e.g. Rosa webb-iana for
> Webb, Desmodium griffith-ianum for Griffith, Verbena hassler-iana for
> Hassler).>>
>
> So we'd have Clarkii, Danielsii, Gnaedingeri, and Lovei; or, with the
> epithet formed as an adjective applied to a masculine genus-name,
> Clarkianus, Danielsianus, Gnaedingerianus, and Loveanus. The only
> question with the discussed species is why it's Attenboroughi instead
> of Attenboroughii. Did the namer of the species think <H> didn't count
> as a consonant (because the name as pronounced ends in a vowel)? or do
> the zoological rules differ?

Thank you for this informative reply. Only that you didn't answer
the original question as to how the zoological name Zaglossus
attenboroughi is pronounced. John Atkinson proposed attenborovai
(his phonetical rendering in brackets may have been distorted by
Google, looked very funny, with an @ and a ?), and he insisted
that the one who named the animal can say how it must be called.
Ending on -i, pronounced -ai. The Latin -i is pronounced -y, or -ee
(but a short vowel). So are there two versions? the ones speaking
English may say attenborovai, others ones attenborovi ? For
once am am insisting on such silly nitpicking. FG

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