Re: Your first "linguistic" memory

Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:24:56 GMT: "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: in sci.lang:

>("Father" vs. "farther")
>
>> Eh? You're saying that both words have the same phoneme /A:/, but they may
>> be different at the allophonic level, is that it? If there's no phonemic
>> distinction in the vowel, and there's nothing different about the rest of
>> each word, what is there to induce different allophones?
>
>If the speakers think they're the same, then the difference isn't
>phonemic.

Speakers (of not linguistically knowledgeable) will say they are
different, yet they are the same, and any difference there might be is
not phonemic. Now what?

The idea that phonemes can be found by asking native speakers what is
and isn't the same is shaky in practice.

>Remember, the Southeast Asianist Shorto claimed that he could hear
>morpheme boundaries in English; maybe he could!

Define 'hear'. The ears don't hear them, the brain does.
--
Ruud Harmsen - http://rudhar.com

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