Re: what is etymology? (linguistics and biology)

Killraters: Richard P. Feynman said it ain't no use when
thousand scientists are tackling the very same problem
using the very same set of methods, at least someone
should try another way ... I am the one who tries another way.
Instead of pondering all the ramifications and specialisations
of the known languages I boldly access the Magdalenian
level and then proceed forward, following the arrow of time.


Sorry for having made a mess, here comes the
corrected version (APS and SPA)

PAS SAP APS SPA ASP PSA

My Magdalenian numbers from last year (Lascaux
thread) worked fine, both on the mathematical and
phonetical level (easily pronounceable and reasonably
short, often shorter than the English ones, even in the
realm of very high numbers). Here my numbers from
one to nine: DIG DU DER DAG MHAYN MHAY-DIG
MHAY-DU MHAY-DER MHAY-DAG. However, most
names would have been replaced by other names,
for example the root of English seven, German Sieben,
Latin septem, French sept, Italian sette, Greek hepta,
must have been sep or sib or something the like.
Let me propose Magdalenian SAP, inverse of PAS.

PAS --- all places on earth: where I stand (center
of my world), where the sun reaches the highest point
of the daily journey (south), where the pole star sparkles
(north), where the spring and fall sun rises (east) and
settles (west), all in all five places, hence an alternative
name for the number five; ancient Greek penta for five,
pas pan for all and everything

SAP --- all the places in the world: the four heavenly
directions, plus the three levels of height, namely
the ground whereupon I stand, the impenetrable depths
of the earth beneath my feet, and the airy lofty heights
of the sky above me, all in all seven places, hence
an alternative name for seven; Latin septem for seven,
ancient Greek saphae for knowledge of the world,
wisdom, philosophy

APS --- hide of a tent, ceiling of a hut, vault of a cave,
sky as an imaginary hide spanned over imaginary pillars;
sky; ancient Greek apsis for vault; consider the splendid
vault or cupola of the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul

SPA --- poles carrying a tent, mountains carrying the sky,
as verb to span a hide over poles in order to make a tent;
Latin spatium for space - tall poles make for a spacious
tent; ancient Greek spargae for to arouse, German Spargel
for asparagus, German Sparren for rafter, consider also
the Minoan and Mycenaean pillar of the four heavens (for
example the one integrated into the lion door of Mycenae);
German spannen aufspannen for to span, Spalier for espalier,
from spall- for shoulder. The Magdalenian homeland were the
Guyenne and northern Spain, bordering on the Pyrenées in
the east and the Cordillera Cantabrica in the west - seen as
an espalier of shoulders or pillars carryng the southern sky?
wherefrom Espana and Spain?; according to the Greek
geographer Strabo one encounters the pillars of Hercules
also when sailing along the shores of the Black Sea,
which may refer to the Caucasus as the shoulders of Atlas,
the central peak, 5087 m high, is called Kazbek, originally
CA SPA ? consider also the Caspian Sea at the eastern
base of the Caucasian mountain range

ASP --- solid, dense, impenetrable, impermeable matter;
ancient Greek aspos for shield

PSA --- permeable matter; ancient Greek psammos for
sand, permeable for water; psakos for a drizzle, where one
can walk through; psaos for a starling, a bird flying through
air, thinnest form of matter; psalmos for the sound of a lyra,
a song or a psalm, reaching the highest heights of the airy,
lofty and spacious heavenly vault ...

Regards Franz Gnaedinger www.seshat.ch


NOT TON ONT NTO TNO OTN

Here you are with a another group of potential
Magdalenian words.

NOT --- to hear, note, notice, learn, mark, acquire
knowledge, know, benefit by knowing, excel by reason
and skill, acquire knowledge by observing nature and
listening to the advice of learned and experienced people,
get ideas on the basis of a profound knowledge and sound
experience, get fame as someone who knows, can apply
the knowledge, and teaches it to the next generation;
English note for to observe and mark carefully, give heed
or attention, notice closely; Middle English note for
benefit, profit, advantage; Indian janaati for knows,
recognizes; Tamil noti for word, language, speech;
Latin notice for becoming acquainted, investigation,
conception; English notice and notion; Latin notus for
known, notor for someone who knows; Greek gnothi
seauton - recognize and know thyself; Arabic natis for
reasonable and skilled, to excel in reason and skills;
Hebrew nodi for renowned, famous, it is getting heeded

TON --- sound, tone, to make a sound, say, teach, give
a lesson; German Ton for sound, tone, German Donner
French tonnère English thunder

ONT --- what you say is true; ancient Greek ontos for
true, actual, really, indeed, wherefrom ontology

NTO --- what you say is not true, ain't so; ancient Greek
nothos for not genuine, spurious

TNO --- source of a sound, twang of a chord; ancient
Greek tenon for sinew

OTN --- ear; ancient Greek otion for ear

When you enter the Lascaux cave and the fabulous
rotunda or hall of bulls, you can see a red horse and
the breast and head of a giant white bull on the left wall,
in front of the bull a group of stags. According to Marie
E.P. Koenig the horse represents the sun and the bull
the moon, while I see the stag as emblem of the shaman,
here of the astronomer shamans observing sun and moon.
Two ends of the right antler of the stag in fron of the lunar
bull touch its lips, one end overlapping with the upper lip,
the other end with the lower lip - a perfect illustration of
NOT, of the astronomer shaman observing the moon
and heeding the lessons given to him by the lunar bull.
In the axial gallery you can see a giant stag, roaring,
under him a geometrical figure I interpreted as the
profane version of the lunisolar calendar of Lascaux
(see my Lascaux thread from last year). The roaring
stag, an illustration of TON as making sound, speaking,
giving lessons, may represent an astronomer shaman
giving lessons to aspiring shamans ...



AC CA // CA VAD // ABA BRA // BRA MAN // SHA MAN

The basic words given in the title are from the last year,
apart from ABA for father, Aramaic abba, which is a new
word of Magdalenian or Azilian origin.

Magdalenian AC was an expanse of land with water,
CA the sky, heaven, what is above, the beyond. The
combination ACCA may have become akka, name of
the Indo-European earth goddess, and Latin aqua for
water, rain falling down from the sky and filling the river
beds with water ... Magdalenian VAD was another word
for water, surviving in German Wasser, English water
and vat. Combine VAD with CA and you obtain CA VAD,
water from the sky, rain filling the rivers and flooding the
country and digging out channels and caves ... Latin
cavus for hollow, English cave, and Portuguese cavar
for to dig out may have a common origin in Magdalenian
CA VAD. For the digging power of water consult Mark
Twain, Life on the Mississippi, Cut-Offs and Stephen.

Combine ABA for father with BRA for the right arm
and you obtain ABA BRA, ABBRA, ABRA, which may
be the origin of Abram / Avram in the Bible, meaning
much as the right arm BRA of the heavenly Lord ABA.
The Lord was the shield of Abram; the shield was worn
on the left arm, so the right arm was free to handle the
weapon. The Lord protected Abram who carried out
His will, who acted as the Lord's right arm ...

BRA was the right arm, MAN the right hand. Combine
the words and you obtain BRA MAN, which is close
to Brahman. Brahman was the creator. BRA MAN
as "right arm right hand" were a suiting name, as we
create our human world mainly via the right arm and
the skilled right hand. Many years ago I heard that
Brahma means sound. This may be a second level
of meaning, alluding to a lute player, and the lovely
and powerful sounds of his instrument that make the
world materialize ... Brahman's recent reincarnation as
a lute player would then be the sitar player Ravi Shankar,
whom I worship since he gave a concert at Zurich in 1971.

If the word shaman goes back to ancient times, it may
combine Magdalenian SHA for ruler, and MAN for the
right hand. A shaman would then be someone who rules
by the skills of the right hand, who blesses and heals
with the right hand, performs rituals, and also carries
out sacrifices and does justice by the right hand. Or
the one who assists the ruler SHA, acting as a ruler's
right hand, skilled in many ways.

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