Re: what is etymology? (linguistics and biology)
- From: "Franz Gnaedinger" <frgn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 22 Mar 2006 23:38:36 -0800
Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
Yes, people in Vanuatu do.
Do you have a term for my consonant -: which is produced
by touching both lips with the tip of the tongue, by sticking
out the tongue and retiring it?
Everett describes it as "a voiced lateralized
apical-alevolar/sublaminal-labial double flap with egressive
lung air" (Everett, Daniel L. 1982, "Phonetic rarities in
Pirahã", JIPA 12: 94-6).
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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
mcv@xxxxxx
Thank you for this information, I also thank Ross Clark.
I don't know anything about the Vanuatu, but I am pleased
to read that they make a dipherence between ph and f and ff,
as I make the same difference, not so much on the level oph
sound, but sure enouf on the physiological level. The lips
are very phinely innervated, I can easily sense how much
pressure my lower lips exerts against the upper teeth.
Now here is the Magdalenian, perhaps Aurignacian origin
of an important group of words:
A voiced lateralized apical-aveolar/sublaminal-labial double
flap with egressive lung air - I - a voiced lateralized apical-
aveolar/sublaminal-labial double flap with egressive lung air
or simply:
-: I -:
Produce the consonant given as -: by touching both lips
with the tip of the tongue, you may even briefly stick out
the tongue -- nothing lateral to it, so I don't know whether
my consonant is the same as the one described above.
-: I -: for desire, derivates LIL LIB BIB DID, ancient Greek
lilazo for I desire, libido, Latin bibi for I drunk (thurst being
a powerful desire), ancient Greek baubo for womb (has
to do with opening, licking animals into life, Altamira cave,
as explained in an earlier killrated message), Ugaritic DD
for loved, beloved (Cyrus H. Gordon), Minoan Dadu for
loved by (Walther Hinz, Linear A tablet Hagia Triada 95),
Phoenician Dido for loved, Dido queen of Carthago, which
was a Phoenician colony, and of course Dido Armstrong,
the singer I love most - what a natural voice she got ...
David can't be a derivative of -: I -: as Dido, I explain the
name from DA PAD, away from (da) activity of feet (pad),
delivered from the paw of the lion, delivered from the paw
of the bear, delivered from the hand of Goliath, delivered
from the paw of that brutish and towering Philistine,
Da pad, David.
Regards Franz Gnaedinger
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