Re: At what point (age) does learning a new language become futile?



Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Larisa wrote:
She acquired enough English to write books in it, even though she
started learning it at age 47.

Does she speak without a detectable accent?

Does that matter? I don't speak without a detectable accent, and I
think that my English is pretty good. For that matter, I think I'm
acquiring a slight accent in Russian, which would mean that I speak no
language without an accent - does it mean that I know no languages?

It means that you have native competence in no language.

Why it matters is that it once again shows that L1 acquisition and L2
learning are totally different processes with different results.

In the 12th century or so, a Danish author called "The First
Grammarian" (since he wrote anonymously) said of a 65 year old gent named
Hallr Teitsson that on an expedition to Rome, Teitsson spoke everywhere the
local language as if he were born there.

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