Re: help on writing Greek characters


Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
Peter T. Daniels <grammatim@xxxxxxxxxxx> scripsit:

Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
Peter T. Daniels <grammatim@xxxxxxxxxxx> scripsit:

For some reason there's no Arial Unicode on this
machine,

You probably mean "Arial Unicode MS" - that's the font name (a
trademark). It's no wonder that you haven't got it, since it's
distributed only as part of Microsoft Office software. (It used to
be available separately for free on the Web, but that was years ago.)

How arrogant can you be?

Apparently I cannot beat you in that area.

How can you assume that the computer placed
in my office by my employer for the purpose of editing and typesetting
doesn't contain a complete set of Office2003? (Most of which, of
course, I have no use for whatsoever.)

I was not assuming anything. In particular, I did not assume that you were
using your office computer when posting to Usenet or that you like or do not
like Microsoft Office.

Then your command of English must be far, far poorer than you, or we,
have thought.

You wrote, "It's no wonder that you haven't got it, since it's
distributed only as part of Microsoft Office software." That is
precisely an assertion that the reason I don't have it is that I do not
have Microsoft Office software.

I made just a simple and correct note about Arial Unicode MS not being
universal in people's computers (even if they use Windows).

You made no such "note." It may be what you intended to say, but it's
not what you said.

That's what
"It's no wonder - -" says. Surely there are _other_ reasons for lack of
Arial Unicode MS, but they just _support_ the observation that "It's no
wonder - -". (You should probably consult your local IT support, since the
probable explanation of lack of Arial Unicode MS - in cases where the user
hasn't removed it consciously and has Office installed - is some error in
the fonts directory. Perhaps there are other fonts missing, too, and lack of
Arial Unicode MS sounds like a significant loss to anyone who works with a
large number of languages.)

We work with Syriac, Hebrew, and occasionally Arabic. I've recommended
starting a series in Chinese philology and linguistics, but I don't
know that it's been greeted with much enthusiasm.

Curiously, we have fonts for 8 scripts of South Asia (all the standards
except Oriya and Sinhala), plus quite a few for Thai, so one of these
days I'm going to try to activate the systems for them. Maybe it'll
want Distribution Disks (it didn't for Arabic), maybe it won't.

"Chuck" Bigelow, of Bigelow and Holmes, is a good friend of Bill
Bright's, and they've kept me informed over the years on the progress
of Lucida. It does supposedly include all Unicode characters.

"Lucida" is a group name for a collection of rather different fonts rather
than a specific font, though some of such fonts _might_ be distributed under
the simple name "Lucida". I very much doubt the Unicode coverage, which is
probably quite different in different Lucidas at probably at most at the
level of Unicode 2.0 (issued in 1996, i.e. ten years ago, with 38,950
characters); we are now at Unicode 4.1 (issued in 2005, with 97,720
characters).

Yet when mb did the same, the Greek was just fine.

Maybe; I cannot recall. The point is that when tests show mixed behavior,
depending on minor variation in data, the technology is what we call
"unreliable".

If you didn't snip so much, it wouldn't be a question of "recall."

You still haven't learned to quote on Usenet, have you? You pointlessly
quoted even the part of my text about which you hadn't got anything to say,
even nominally. Maybe you should read something like
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

In google groups, which I have been using for only a few weeks now, so
your "still" is highly inappropriate, one is not aware of how much one
is quoting, since it is displayed only upon request. I therefore am not
prompted to delete all your excess verbiage. If I were seeing it in
front of me, I would of course have removed most of it -- but nothing
that was potentially relevant to my reply.

Why do you enjoy having continually to be reminded of how much
misconstrual you do because of your excessive snippage of context?

.

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