Re: The ancient name of the city of "ROME" was "KIZIL ALMA"

allingus wrote:
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"KIZIL ELMA" WAS THE ANCIENT NAME OF THE CITY OF "ROME"

By

POLAT KAYA

PART-1

INTRODUCTION

After publishing my paper regarding the relation between the Pagan
temple of "Pantheon" in Rome and the ancient Turanian Yurts, a new
situation suddenly came to the surface. As I was trying to find some
information about the poem "KIZIL ELMA" by the famed Turkish poet
philosopher Ziya Gökalp, I was amazed by the information that I found
in
my Redhouse Turkish-English Dictionary, [1] It defined KIZIL ELMA as
being: "a) a legendary Turkish land in Central Asia, and b) in ancient
times, the name of the city of Rome."

This is an eye opener indeed! It indicates that not only was the name
"ROME" or "ROMA" not the real name of this ancient city,

No, it indicates that it was the Turkish name.

> but its real
name was in Turkish in the form of "KIZIL ALMA" meaning "Golden Apple"
or "Red Apple".

How does a dictionary entry with "elma" "indicate" that the spelling was "alma"? I would think an entry with "alma" would be required for that.

> Evidently the British writers of the Redhouse Turkish -
English dictionary knew much more about ancient "ROME" than the public
at large.

I would *hope* that people constructing a Turkish dictionary know more about the Turkish language, including its terms for foreign places, than the general public which, outside of Turkey, doesn't generally know Turkish. But just because somebody knows that the word in language X for place Y is Z, it doesn't mean that that person knows anything about that place. I know that the German name for Milan is Mailand, yet I know practically nothing about Milan.

> Particularly, the Romans or the Latins and/or the Catholic
Church officials know much more about the city's real ancient name -
but
they never told the truth about it to the public.

You got all this out of an entry in a bilingual dictionary?

I'm curious what you think a place's "real name" is if it isn't "the name given to the place by the people who live there". You don't think there's a contradiction in the idea that a place's real name is one that nobody knows about?

As usual everything
about them is in deep secrecy. That is, how they have been operating
for
the last 2,000 years or more. In fact they intentionally kept the
original name of Rome secret.

Or maybe the people *did* know the old name, and then one day the authorities said, "Wouldn't it be fun to s make the people think this place has a different name from the one it has?" and then they cast secret super mind rays at everybody to make them simultaneously forget the old name and make the new one pop into their heads.
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