Re: Plausibility Check


Killrating mob of sci.lang: you follow me everywhere,
don't you? But you must have missed the message
quoted below, my definition of language, and the
relation between human made things and words,
both from 1974/75. I got three Google stars for
"average." Are a definition of language and such
a relation the average you get from a message
in sci.lang? Certainly not. So go for the kill.

Back in 1974/75 I defined language as follows:

Language is the means of getting help, support and
understanding from those we depend upon in one way
or another --- and every means of getting help, support
and understanding may be called language, on whatever
level of life it occurs.

In the same years 1974/75 I stated a correlation between
human made things and words:

The level of life is mirrored in language. What is special
about human life? The use of things we made ourselves.
These human made things - artificial members and
organs beyond the human body - are mirrored in words.

Words denote human made things: cup, table, house ...

Human made things allow us to name natural entities
and appearances: ceiling - vault - heaven

A clay figurine of an animal or a human being allows
us to name animals and human beings

Life and soul are what is missing in clay figurines,
definitions ex negativo, again in correlation with
human made objects

A band led to the word and, German binden for to
bind, substantive Bund for union, und for and

I may add ancient Greek kairoeis for well chained or
warped (of a textile), firm, fast, solid, perhaps also
Latin foedus for union, fetialis for a contract among
nations, et for and.

I forgot to say that ancient Greek for 'and' is kai.

The more things we use the more words we need.
A numerical correlation of the number of things and
the size of the vocabulary may be a topic of a doctoral
thesis.

D. Jensen should consider these relations when he
ponders the language of a future time, somewhere
between 2 500 and 12 000 AD - he should have at
least a vague idea of the material world in the time
his novel plays for coining a matching language.

Franz Gnaedinger www.seshat.ch

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Relevant Pages

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