Re: getting out of LaTeX

3 Sep 2006 06:25:56 -0700: "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
in sci.lang:

Next question: what do they mean, and how are they different from \/^p
and/or \/^l?

Maybe it's Alzheimer's?

No, it's your lack of willingness to read, understand, explain, and
admit it when you don't know or understand something yourself. Not the
first time.

It seems like a week ago that Mike Wright
explained the difference between "Line feed" and "(Carriage) return,"
and then you said you didn't see it, so I repeated what he'd said.

In ASCII, CR means exactly what the word says, the typing position is
changed from the current position to the start of the line. However,
it stays in the same line!
Line feed or newline also means what the words say: advance the line,
but do not change the position in the line!

On old DEC terminals ((seen around 1980), it really worked like that.
I think also HP3000 (1983, rather vague memories).

Of course, only the two (CR&LF) together make sense, which is done
mechanically in old typewriters, and by convention in text processors
and later, word processors.

Filestorage conventions vary, \n (newline) in Unix, \r\n (CR/LF) in
Windows, something else on the Mac. (These \r\n are not Framemaker,
but C(++)/shells/perl etc., yet another convention.)

The difference between ASCII CR and LF has nothing to with the
difference between Word's ^p and ^l: both involve both.

\l and \r both yield the character typed by Shift-Return, \p yields the
character typed by Return.

OK. Same as Word's ^l and ^p. Apprently \r and \l are identical.
Next questions:
If they are identical, why do they both exist?
If they are not identical, what is the difference?

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