Re: Lepanto

Franz Gnaedinger wrote:
Dusan Vukotic wrote:

The first condition one has to fulfill in order to understand the
development of human speech is an ability to understand the internal
logic of language. Therefore, semantic and logic are the primary
"tools" for discovering the history of the word. Phonetic changes can
be used only as an auxiliary method for analyzing those findings
achieved by the deep philosophical penetration into the core (center,
source, wellspring) of the word flowing. The sun is the center of our
world and the core or the self-generating wellspring of human speech.
Symbolically, of cours. The sun triggered human mind to think about the
world in general (god, nature), about other human and about himself
alone. However, I think, we have a plenty of time ahead to explain it
all, even the most tiniest details.

The sun played a crucial role already in the Paleolithic imagery.
According to Marie E.P. König, the sun was symbolized by the
horse, for example in the Lascaux cave. Here you are with the
composite names I postulated for the Magdalenian sun horse:

CA LAB --- sky (ca) cold (lab), winter sun horse (descending
horses at the rear end of the axial gallery of the Lascaux cave)

CA BEL --- sky (ca) warm (bel), spring sun horse (the lovely
"Chinese" horses in the axial gallery)

CA BAL --- sky (ca) hot (bal), summer sun horse (red horse
in the magnificient rotunda)

CA LAB would have been the origin of the word gallop, while
CA BAL became Latin caballum (etymology unclear says my
dictionary) Spanish caballo French cheval. In the latter version,
CA would have been softened to che pronounced sh(ö), and B
to v. Latin Cabillonum, a village or town in France, became
Chalon (Chalon-sur-Saône). In this case, Ca was softened to
Cha pronounced sha, while bi fell away. A similar transformation
could have occurred to hypothetical CA BEL and CA BAL --
they could have softened into shel and shal, A and B falling away,
and further into hel and hal, which became helios (ancient Greek
for sun) and haul (Welsh for sun), while shal could have sharpened
again into sol (Latin for sun) and saule (Lithuanian for sun), root of
English sun German Sonne.

Etymology is a very slippery terrain and the final conclusions could be
made only there where all possible doubts had been removed or cleared
out.

A house, a wooded hill and a mountain range can meet on the
horizon while being kilometers apart. Words can sound similar
while meaning different things - they can meet on the phonetic
horizon, so to say, while marking very distant places on the
semantic map. To make it even more complex: neighboring
mountain tops can consist of different stone, while distant
mountains can belong to the same geological layer ...

Would anyone believe me if I said that the following words are closely
related and that they had been derived from the same source: Sargon,
sunce (sun), sun, sol, sredina (center), srce (heart), srčan (brave),
red (order), regno, Rhein, rex/regis, ρήγας (king), rika (roar),
reč (word), order, sreća (happiness), sručiti (fall down, topple),
sretanje (meeting), rod (family), rađanje (birthing), reka (river)
etc.? Of course, I know, one can hardly say anything except to wave his
hand nervously and reward above question with a negative (sometimes
even scornful) response; despite the fact I have been telling the
truth.

Sol, sun and sunce belong together. Rhein and reka, perhaps
also rika belong together - maybe also raegas and rex, as the
early king was the one who controlled the rivers. You say yourself
that etymology is a slippery thing. I don't see how you can relate
all the above words considering their established etymologies.
May I recommend that you study the etymology of those words?
Your thinking may then gain depth, you may discover some
deep relations and give up spurious ones that are coincidental
meetings observed from a single vantage point.

Another example: are there any close relations among Serb. 'kućanstvo
/ kućenje' (haushold), Gr. οικογένεια (household, family),
οίκος (house), Eng. hut, Ger. Hütte, Serb.. kut (corner)?

Here I found Magdalenian KOD for hut, comparative form KOS.
Consider for example German Kate with the same meaning
as Huette, English hut. Also head belongs to that group of words,
as the casing of the brain or mind, and a hat is covering the head.
Sanskrit and Irish got many words that are easily recognized
as descendants of hypothetical KOD. The comparative form
KOS is present in cosmos. KOD and KOS also survived in
French château and English castel.

Obviously, you have a quick-piercing mind when you spotted that
'lepenka' was glued as if lips were closed together. In fact, the
Serbian 'lepljenje' (gluing) is nothing else but 'ljubljenje' (kissing)
and the both of these words were in a close relation to other Serbian
words like 'obala' (coast), 'obljuba' (intercourse), 'plivanje'
(swimming), 'oblivanje' (suffusing), 'poljubac' (kiss) - geminated BEL
syllable.

The lip between the tongue is found as image in Magdalenian
art, in my opinion a symbol of desire. Licking the lips is still
a sexual signal. I am pleased about ljubljene and Ljubliana.

Regards Franz Gnaedinger

Thanks again, Franz.
I would say I finally met someone whose mind is open to all possible
horizons of surprise, a real thinker, a man built of intuition (mother
of science) and nicely carved pieces of scientific-critical approach
and the most profound logic.

Let us compare these two words: gallop and caballum. Is this
conspicuous similarity a product of metatheses? In addition, is there
any relation between the English ‘club’ and Serbian ‘klupa’
(bench, stool)? What about the words as ‘clew’ and Serb.
‘klupko’ (Czech ‘klubko’; syntagms ‘find the clew’ and
‘odmotati klupko’). This shows that etymology is a more serious job
than our well-educated “lingua scientists” could have ever
imagined. The problem is how to find the above ‘clew’; i.e. how to
find the self generating wellspring of human speech; articulated sound
source (Serb. srce heart) hidden in the deepest layers of the
‘ocean’ of flowing words.

Your CA BAL and CA LAB assumptions are absolutely correct. In fact, the
real source of the similar words is GON-BEL – an inverted option of
Bel-GON (Balcan!!; cf. Serb. ‘oko’ eye; ‘okno’ window, pane,
mine-shaft; ‘okolina’ surrounding; ‘okolo’ around; ‘kolo’
circle > Gr. helios > Welsh haule).

Interesting: Serb. ‘kobila’ mare; ‘akov’ old Serb measure for
liquid; Serb. ‘okov’ fetter; Lat. aqua (compare fetter > water and
okov > aqua; is this a chance resemblance or the most deep
philosophical question?). Equus!? Serbian ‘potkov’ hors shoe
(actually “pod okov” under-hors-shoe). Additionally, Serb.
‘oklop’ armor, Lat. ‘globus’, Serb. ‘glava’ head.

All these words and the hundreds of others from the basis GON-BEL could
and should be precisely arranged ('arranged' is the same word as the
Serb. 'uređeno'; Serb. ‘reka / rijeka’ is ‘rijenje’ agitation,
digging; from the secondary basis RI-GNA / Serb. ‘rignuti’ to pour
out a great amount of liquid; hence the river Rhein also…). The
Serbian words ‘sredina’ center, ‘sreća’ happiness, ‘sunce’
sun, ‘srce’ heart and adjective ‘sređen’ (arranged) have their
common origin in the primary ancient basis SUR-GON.

Serbian 'red' (order), 'uređenje' (system), Lat. regnum, regni, rex...

Regards,
Dusan Vukotic

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