Re: Lepanto
- From: "Franz Gnaedinger" <frgn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 16 Oct 2006 01:08:19 -0700
Dusan Vukotic wrote:
Let us compare these two words: gallop and caballum. Is this
conspicuous similarity a product of metatheses? In addition, is there
any relation between the English 'club' and Serbian 'klupa'
(bench, stool)? What about the words as 'clew' and Serb.
'klupko' (Czech 'klubko'; syntagms 'find the clew' and
'odmotati klupko'). This shows that etymology is a more serious job
than our well-educated "lingua scientists" could have ever
imagined. The problem is how to find the above 'clew'; i.e. how to
find the self generating wellspring of human speech; articulated sound
source (Serb. srce heart) hidden in the deepest layers of the> 'ocean' of flowing words.
If my memory serves me well, Merrit Ruhlen wrote a paper
on the origin of clew, a very old word. I shall tell you more
if I can find the book again.
Your CA BAL and CA LAB assumptions are absolutely correct. In fact, the
real source of the similar words is GON-BEL - an inverted option of
Bel-GON (Balcan!!; cf. Serb. 'oko' eye; 'okno' window, pane,
mine-shaft; 'okolina' surrounding; 'okolo' around; 'kolo'
circle > Gr. helios > Welsh haule).
I am playing and looking how far I get. Richard Fester
understood names of villages in the Guyenne that end
on -ac as indications of water. Relying on Swiss river
names such as Eulach, and village names such as
Embrach, or Kuessnacht, from Cossiniacum, I postulate
AC as Magdalenian word for an expanse of land with water,
while inverse CA means the sky. Richard Fester read bal,
bel, pul, vul, vol etc. as fire - vulcanus a fire god, diobal
devil Teufel the god of fire. I took BAL for hot, and BEL
for warm. Combining them with CA I got CA BAL for sky
hot, summer sun horse, CA BEL for sky warm, sun horse
of spring. The inverse of BAL is LAB, which may then mean
cold; consider the ice stream Labrador. CA LAB would now
be the winter sun horse. Hear the sun horse run:
CA LAB CA LAB CA LAB CA LAB ...
CA BEL CA BEL CA BEL CA BEL ...
CA BAL CA BAL CA BAL CA BAL ...
What exactly is your interpretation of 'bel' and 'gon' and
their combination in 'Balcan'? As for Serbian oko 'eye'
I postulate OC as Magdalenian word for eye, especially
the right eye, while AY was the word for the left eye.
OC AY would then be the origin of Scottish Och, aye,
okay -- originally a firm look into somebody's eyes, in a
former time when such a look was the way of saying yes
and confirming a contract.
Interesting: Serb. 'kobila' mare; 'akov' old Serb measure for
liquid; Serb. 'okov' fetter; Lat. aqua (compare fetter > water and
okov > aqua; is this a chance resemblance or the most deep
philosophical question?). Equus!? Serbian 'potkov' hors shoe
(actually "pod okov" under-hors-shoe). Additionally, Serb.
'oklop' armor, Lat. 'globus', Serb. 'glava' head.
These are too many questions for me. I recognize just one
word, Magdalenian PAD for the acitivity of feet, present in
pod okov - if pod means shoe, that is.
All these words and the hundreds of others from the basis GON-BEL could
and should be precisely arranged ('arranged' is the same word as the
Serb. 'uredeno'; Serb. 'reka / rijeka' is 'rijenje' agitation,
digging; from the secondary basis RI-GNA / Serb. 'rignuti' to pour
out a great amount of liquid; hence the river Rhein also...). The
Serbian words 'sredina' center, 'sreca' happiness, 'sunce'
sun, 'srce' heart and adjective 'sreden' (arranged) have their
common origin in the primary ancient basis SUR-GON.
I found RCO for being active, youthful and passionate
activities (a permutation of COR, see my etymological
thread).
Serbian 'red' (order), 'uredenje' (system), Lat. regnum, regni, rex...
Serbian 'red' for order is interesting. I can confirm it from
my side, and perhaps define what kind of order is meant.
Magdalenian RED comparative form RES and permutations
yield a dozen words around the meme of holding a council
in a tent or hut of a Magdalenian camp. RED would have
been the word for a speaker, ancient Greek rhaetor for
orator, speaker, lecturer. Ancient Greek rhaetra means
speech, oration, address, contract, agreement, treaty,
appointment, law, statute, rule. Here you can see the
transition speaker - speech, law, rule. 'Red' as order
would then be the order of a community or society as
worked out by talking, for example in the parliament.
Regards Franz Gnaedinger
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