Re: Where does the name come from?
- From: heliogabalus <forbidden@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:36:13 GMT
Dusan Vukotic wrote:
Gr. khaos, Ger, Gasse (backstreet), Eng. gas, goose; gouache -
watercolor, guess, quash
Yes, Greek chaos is related to the English gas, but not to the English goose:
Root / lemma: ĝhan-s-
English meaning: goose
German meaning: und verwandte Bildungen fµr `Gans'
(Pokorny,Indogermanisches Etymologisches Woerterbuch),
nor to the German Gasse:
gat-wæ* 1, got., sw. F. (n), (Krause, Handbuch des Gotischen 139,1): nhd. Gasse;
ne. thoroughfare, street, main road; ÜG.: gr. plate‹a; ÜE.: lat. platea; Q.: Bi (340-
380); E.: Etymologie dunkel, s. germ. *gatwæ-, *gatwæn, sw. F. (n), Gasse; germ.
*gata-, *gatam, st. N. (a), Loch; vgl. idg. *ghed-, V., Sb., scheißen, Loch, Pokorny
423, Lehmann G69; B.: Akk. Pl. gatwons Luk 14,21 CA
This demonstrates that omophony doesn't imply sameness of roots.
Compare the following Serbian words: gaženje (wade, trample, stamp,
walk heavily), gaz (ford), gašenje (extinguish, extinction), gasiti
(slake, smother), gas (gas), gušenje (suffocation), kužan
(contaminated, pestilential), kuga (plague), guša (goitre), guzanje
(waddle, totter), gusan (goose), guzica(buttocks);
Sorry, I lack A Serbian etymological dictionary and can't compare those words
Above is the small example of the "internal logic" and
"back-to-the-roots transparency" of the Slavic (this time Serbian)
languages I mentioned earlier.
The internal logic of a language pertains to the language's philosophy studies, not to the linguistic ones as practiced in this ng; the "back-to-the-roots transparency" is a metaphor I can accept in Babel's tower of Starostin, intended as an attempt to enlighten the diachronic relations among words, otherwise is a greenness (let a neophyte tell you that).
All these words sprang from the same source - reduplicated ur-syllable
'gon' - GON-GON.
With your license, relatively to the philosophy of the language I already have a maître à penser, Fabre d'Olivet.
If you read this carefully, I hope, you would be able to understand
that what I was talking about last time (internal logic and
transparency) is not as nonsensical as it seemed to you at first sight.
Maybe you are referring to another replier; I never said your theses are nonsensical, and still I don't think that. But unfortunately, imo, you are in the wrong ng; and still unfortunately, we have a philosophy's newsgroup but not language's philosophy newsgroups at all.
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