Re: taras


Dusan Vukotic wrote:

I am talking about the most ancient syllables, which were the common
wellspring of the all IE tongues. In this case, SUR and HOR seem to be
two words that had been split from the common ancestor wich erstwhile
sounded similar to X (ks, hs, gz; XUR). The ancient "rivalry" between
Sur and Hor was the basis for the later satem-centum division. Of
course, SUR, HOR and BEL are the sun gods well known in ancient
religions. In the further developing of speech, these primeval
syllables were combined with the fourth ur-syllable GON, the one that
represented different kind of motion or movement.

For instance, the Serbian SUNCE and the English SUN are the "products"
of SURGON (Sargon from Akkad!); first SUR-GNE > SUR-NKE > SUR-NCE and
at last SUNCE. The similar process could be seen in the other Serbian
word (ZORA dawn), but this time from the HOR-GON basis (GORENJE
/flaming, glowing/, ŽARENJE heating, burning, ZORNJAČA /morning
star/). We can see that ZORA (dawn) kept the original sound 'R' while
te same sound had been removed in case of the word SUNCE (sun). The
sound R elision is the one of the important rules for the understanding
of the IE speech evolution.

Thank you for the explanation, but it is not sufficient.
Are _you_ proposing the ur-words SUR HOR BEL GON ?
Is someone else proposing them? and if so, who?
And do you, or that other person, or that group of persons,
believe that the earliest language consisted of just four
words? How do you say: Attention, a lion on the left side!
How could the ancient hunters communicate with just
these four words? Or are they words of an early religious
language? if so, what was the profane language, for they
must have used a form of language. Your answer raises
many more questions - questions I would also pose
Prof. Dr. Richard Fester: how did people communicate
using just the five ur-words BA KALL TAL ACQ TAG ?
And if there have been such ur-words, whom should we
follow? Fester or you? Why didn't you find the same words?
You must answer all these questions, otherwise nobody
can follow you, and nobody will follow you, especially here
in sci.lang.

Regards Franz Gnaedinger

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  • Re: taras
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  • Re: SUR, HOR,DEL,GON,UM...
    ... Btw, how would things change if you went with SUR, HOR, DEL, GON, UM? ... now I have to question the "Gon" sound...it's a back of the throat ...
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  • Re: s->h
    ... BEL, GON, UM) ... URD - Urd's Well, where the gods meet in council each day. ... Btw, how would things change if you went with SUR, HOR, DEL, GON, UM? ...
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