Re: lend/borrow

In article <1164483569.731786.14150@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Dr. Jamshid Ibrahim" <Jdibrahim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Mike Wright schrieb:

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
Mike Wright wrote:
Glenn wrote:
Mike Wright ã?®ã?¡ã??ã?»ã?¼ã?¸:
It used to be that certain speakers in Louisiana used "bring" where
most
English speakers would say "take". They would say both "Bring that
over
here." and "Bring this over there."
If you don't mind, I'd like for you to expound on this a bit for me, as
I'm a south Lousianan, and I'm not sure I'm getting the difference.
I (and, I think, most English speakers) would say "Take this over
there", not "Bring this over there". "Bring" implies "toward the
speaker", so I can't use it with "over there".

My experience with this usage is from when I lived in New Iberia--a
wonderful place with huge oaks, Spanish moss, and sugar cane trucks--in
the mid-1940s. Actually, it was pointed out by my (nine years older)
sister, who noted its use among her Cajun friends. My family is from
Texas, and I was born there, but New Iberia is the first place I
remember.

What about "Bring this with you when you go to their office"? "Bring"
might make reference to the recipient.

I don't think I'd ever say that. I'd use "take".


1. "Bring" is from German whereas "take" is take Scandinavian. To me
German "bringen" can only logically show the direction to the speaker
although the Germans use "bringen" f殲 both ways. Sometimes they make
it clear by saying "herbringen: bring here" or "hinbringen: bring
there". to show the direction.

2. Often in German at least in spoken language the verb "leihen" is
used for both ways. Sometimes they make it clear by saying "borgen" for
borrow

There is also the perfectly normal "Nehmen Sie/Nimm es mit"

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