Re: Language and SPM


On 26-Nov-2006, Joachim Pense <snob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote in message <f7z6kz3pnr1r.1wkbzjsetlxh.dlg@xxxxxxxxxx>:

Am Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:51:02 -0800 schrieb Tim Smith:

[...]

Spoken Spanish is very regular, isn't it, with the same time given to
each syllable?

As is spoken Hungarian. Yet Spanish sounds fast, Hungarian slow.

Since phonemic gemination of both vowels and consonants has a high
functional load in Hungarian, if anything is regular it's more
likely morae than syllables.

--
Jim Heckman
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