Re: How many years dedicated to characters learning in China ?
- From: LEE Sau Dan <danlee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:25:13 +0800
"Peter" == Peter T Daniels <grammatim@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> I think we're at cross purposes, perhaps because Peter's syntax
>> is a bit convoluted.
Peter> Hey!
Peter> I said what I meant and I meant what I said.
But what you mean is not what others get. :)
>> His remark can be rephrased as: "You're not likely to encounter
>> a character that _isn't_ a radical + phonetic, except for some
>> that you will have learnt in school in the first few years",
>> and I don't think you disagree.
Peter> No -- that suggests that the non-composite characters are
Peter> rare in text (rare as tokens).
No. That suggests that most of the non-radical-phonetic characters
that one would encounter are taught in schools in the first few years.
Peter> What is true is that they are rare in dictionaries (as
Peter> types),. but since they are semantically very basic they
Peter> are on the one hand likely to be quite common, and on the
Peter> other, taught early in one's schooling.
But Colin's rephrasing doesn't mention anything about reason. And
here in this paragraph above, you're trying to explain it.
Peter> Indeed, the presence of so many simple characters in the
Peter> first few lessons might give rise to the misconception
Peter> among Chinese-speaker/readers that _all_ characters are
Peter> pictures. (I have several books that make pictures out of
Peter> composite characters, as mnemonics; but they have nothing
Peter> to do with the origin of the character.)
As mnemonics, they're pretty useful. But the students shouldn't be
misled into believing that that's the origin of the characters.
--
Lee Sau Dan 李守敦 ~{@nJX6X~}
E-mail: danlee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Home page: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee
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