Re: some more Irish vowels




"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Ekkehard Dengler wrote:
"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Out of curiosity, I picked up an Ivor Novello album, and John
McCormick
sings (beautifully, of course) "Keep the Home Fires Burning" -- but he
doesn't rhyme "yearning" with "burning"! "Burning" has myrrh, as
expected, but "yearning" has Mary!

Many Irish people pronounce non-prevocalic "ir/yr" and "ur" alike while
keeping "er/ear" distinct. I don't think "yearning" has "Mary", though;
I
would say it has the "dress" vowel (or "merry", if you like).
In the northwest (and possibly in other parts of the country),
non-prevocalic "ar" has a much closer vowel than "trap", so that both
"hard"
and "heard" can sound like [hErd].

Again, because merry and Mary are perfectly distinct for me, I have no
trouble identifying which is used in McC's "yearning."

Judging by http://www.aftermathww1.com/homefires.asp, you've simply
misidentified McCormack's "merry": [jE::rnIN] = /jErnIN/. If anything, the
first vowel in "yearning" is slightly lower than that in "glen".

Regards,
Ekkehard


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