Re: permissible syllable codas in major world languages)?
- From: "Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kriha@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:08:15 +1300
Joachim Pense <snob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Am Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:00:06 +0000 (UTC) schrieb Christian Weisgerber:
Joachim Pense <snob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
-h is not possible in German.
Nor is the glottal stop.
But that isn't a phoneme, or is it?
I sort of hoped that Helmut Richter would pipe up here. He has
previously argued that the glottal stop is indeed a phoneme.
I good example to demonstrate the glottal stop is the perpetual
question whether to pronounce the Ukraine as "Ukr[ai]ne" or "Ukra-ine",
but since that is also a question of syllabicity, it can be analyzed
in different terms, I guess.
Yes, the question is in my view if there is a stress on the i or if ai
is a diphtong.
I don't know how the average Ukrainian in the street pronounces
it but just next door (Slovakia) it's written and pronounced
"Ukrajina", a prefix "u-", noun "kraj", and suffix "-ina".
"j" is consonantal, thus, there's no glottal stop and no diphthong.
pjk
I cannot tell too much about glottal stops - in my region it is spoken
not very intensely if it is at all.
Joachim
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