Re: permissible syllable codas in major world languages)?
- From: "Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kriha@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:53:44 +1300
Joachim Pense <snob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Am Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:08:15 +1300 schrieb Paul J Kriha:
Joachim Pense <snob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Am Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:00:06 +0000 (UTC) schrieb Christian Weisgerber:
Joachim Pense <snob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
-h is not possible in German.
Nor is the glottal stop.
But that isn't a phoneme, or is it?
I sort of hoped that Helmut Richter would pipe up here. He has
previously argued that the glottal stop is indeed a phoneme.
I good example to demonstrate the glottal stop is the perpetual
question whether to pronounce the Ukraine as "Ukr[ai]ne" or "Ukra-ine",
but since that is also a question of syllabicity, it can be analyzed
in different terms, I guess.
Yes, the question is in my view if there is a stress on the i or if ai
is a diphtong.
I don't know how the average Ukrainian in the street pronounces
it but just next door (Slovakia) it's written and pronounced
"Ukrajina", a prefix "u-", noun "kraj", and suffix "-ina".
"j" is consonantal, thus, there's no glottal stop and no diphthong.
Where is the stress?
Joachim
On the first syllable. With very very few exceptions the primary
stress in both Slovak and Czech is on the first syllable.
Even when similar or identical words are spoken in E.Slavic
they sound quite different even from a long distance away.
pjk
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