Re: The Origins of Zürich...


As for Cossiniacus / Cossiniacum
on lake Lucerne (a reconstructed name): it turned into
Chussenacho (before 840), Cusenach (1036), Chüsnach,
Chussenacho (1190), Chiussenacho (1253), and later
into Küssnacht, which evokes a kissing night. Küsnacht
(with one s) on lake Zurich is presumably no Gallo-Roman
settlement but was founded by a noble family from
Cossiniacum / Küssnacht on lake Lucerne. I have no
comparable name list for Zurich, just Turicum Turegum.
The Idiotikon, wherein my language is kept, has not yet
arrived at the letter Z. I walk by the publishing house
of the Idiotikon almost daily, might one day go in and ask.
For the time being, Ziu rihi, as proposed by Heidi, is a
plausible candidate for a later Alemannic overforming,
and goes along fairly well with my hypothesis about the
oldest name of the recently discovered 5,000 years old
settlement on the hill whose top we call Lindenhof, place
of the later Roman castellum: TYR AC Turicum Turegum
... Zürich Zurich.

I looked up a Celtic dictionary and found these names
for Zurich: *Turi-cus Tur-ec(g)um / Dat... Tyrici / In pago
Durgaugense, in sito, qui dicitur Zurighauvia / In pago
Durgauginse seu in sito Zurighauvia / Ziurichi / Castrum
Torico / Castro Turico / In castro Turico / P(rae)p(ositus)
sta(tionis) Turicen(sis) XL (quadragesimae) G(alliarum).
Dur- dor- tur- is a rather frequent word in river names,
Du-ri for Thur, Thurgau (Durganense / Durgauginse),
wherefrom Winterthur, a city name. A French etymology
gives dur-icum as explanation for Zurich, dur meaning
water. I will ponder this meaning. If dur, present in river
names, comes from hypothetical TYR --- he who over-
comes, then it may refer to rivers that frequently flooded
a plain, came over the fields, overcame the land, so to
say. A river rules the land, in a way. Ole man Mississipi,
king Osiris was present in the Nile, the Seine was named
for a Celtic goddess, the river Ganges for the goddess
Ganga. May it be that a river was named for an early
ruler, or vice versa, or that a ruler was also able to cope
with a river? Will ponder these questions in the thread
Odainsakur, as I can't lead a double discussion, the
same in two threads.

Regards Franz Gnaedinger

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