Re: Odainsakur


Franz Gnaedinger wrote:
Poul Erik Jørgensen wrote:

There can't be a t in Greek words and a corresponding t in a Germanic word
like Týr.

Counter-example: tyrsis Turm tower (turris torre tour),
interestingly a tyr-word. Magdalenian TYR means:
he who overcomes. Towers are dominating a landscape.

I wonder whether TYR might be the origin of such important
words as theos deus Dis and Zeus. The Middle Helladic form
of Zeus was Sseyr (Derk Ohlenroth):

TYR - Sseyr (Middle Helladic) - Sseys (Doric) - Zeus

My third Magdalenian law says that S-words are comparative
forms of D-words. Cf. Latin respondeo, intensive responso.
I even found a permutation group of S-words as comparative
forms of a group of T-words (TON SON). If we read Sseyr
as comparative form of TYR we get Zeus as the one who
overcomes everybody, all humans and all gods, the supreme
god. Ssyr Sseyr is no problem, cf. pyr fire Feuer. Ssyr almost
asks for an e, Ssyr Sseyr.

Yesterday, in my reply to Colin Fine, I wondered whether
also the Greek ending -taer might be a form of TYR.
I checked a-words ending on -taer and found nine cases:

aisymnaetaer : judge in a fight, overseer, (elected) ruler
- hypothetical connection obvious

alexaetaer : defender, protector - he who overcomes
enemies and intruders

alktaer : protector, revenger - dito

amaetaer : reaper - he who overcomes grass wheat etc.,
in German death is called a reaper, Schnitter Tod, he who
overcomes everybody in the end

hamillaetaer : to vie, contend with - trying to overcome
competitors

aotaer : sling or strap, used to carry a burden, especially
a weapon - the strap allows to overcome the weight and
resistance of the burden, and to carry it along

araetaer : priest - overcomes evil and demonic spirits

arotaer : ploughman - goes over the field, turns the earth
around, overcomes it, so to say

astaer : star - stars, one may say, dominate the sky
(Magdalenian AS means upward)

I decided to go through my dictionary and look up all words
ending on -taer in alphabetical order:

gastaer : belly, womb - the belly overcomes us with hunger,
pregnancy overcomes a woman

Daemaetaer : goddess of agriculture and fertility - she
provides food for us (tyr in the sense of give), but, if angry,
she can cause a famine, overcome the land with hunger,
(Black Demeter, her Cretan equivalent was Lousia, the
angry one)

dotaer : giver, spender, paymaster - he who pays got the
say (wer zahlt befiehlt)

draestaer : servant - helps his master, increases his
efiiciency (corporate identity, one can be a small number
in a firm, yet as member of that firm one partakes in power)

dysmaetaer : bad mother - a mother has influence on her
children (mostly a good, rarely a bad one)

dotaer with omega, same meaning as dotaer with omikron

elataer : driver, someone who steers a wagon - imposing
his will on the horses

heliktaer : earrings - a sign of power in those times

ebaktaer : hunter - overcomes his prey

zostaer : belt - holds together, overcomes in that sense

haegaetaer, a form of haegaemon : leader, ruler, sovereign
(hegemony)

To be continued.

Regards Franz Gnaedinger

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