Re: The Origins of Zürich...

Heidi Graw wrote:
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Heidi wrote:
"Moo" is a word! ;-)
Paul wrote:
Then, is it a noun or verb, or what is it?
Heidi wrote:
The Merriam-Webster Dictionary claims
moo vb. to make the natural throat noise of a cow ---- moo n.
moo can be used as a verb or a noun.
Paul wrote:
The Merriam-Webster Dictionary claiming it isn't that surprising,
but you using MWD to identify which baby gurgles are words
and which are not is frankly........ insane?
E.g. "U menya pustaya golova"

Heidi had written:
Listen up, Paul: I am sounding out "U menya pustaya golova." I have
absolutely no idea what this means.
I'm just gurgling out these things.
Does that mean those words have no meaning? *You* know the meaning of the
above sentence.

Paul wrote:
I gave you an English version already.

"Bingo!" *You,* an outside source from me, had to provide the meaning for those sounds I made.

Heidi wrote:
I don't [the meaning], but I can sound them out.

Paul wrote:
You are joking of course. I am absolutely sure
that you couldn't possibly do that without any instruction
in Russian.

Yes, *YOU*...a someone other than me, had to instruct me about what those sounds I made *mean.*

When my son sounded out, "Moo!" I recognized it as a word. Cows say, "Moo." I show a picture of a cow, point to it, and say, "Moo." In this manner the baby is instructed to relate the sound "Moo" to this object featured in the picture. *I* as that outside source, provided a meaning to that sound. I instructed the baby by showing him what that sound is related to.

And just as I gurgled out "U menya pustaya golova." *YOU* had to provide me with a meaning for those sounds I made.

Understand ye, or what?

Heidi


Are you perhaps an adherent of the romantic idea that language is something that parents or others *teach* to children?

Colin
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