Re: yiddish



On Jan 28, 1:12 pm, phogl...@xxxxxx wrote:
mb wrote:
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Maybe not, but a distinct literary norm, using a different alphabet, is
quite a criterion indeed.

Criterion of what? We have a very clearly high German language, with a
level of structural borrowing that would only be characterized as
"mild" on the usual scales. Politically or religiously motivated
differences in alphabet are a worldwide phenomenon and they do not
supersede the genetic relaptionships except for politically motivated
nationalist nonsense.

Read it anew. I said "a distinct literary norm, using a different
alphabet". The point is a sociolinguistic one. Both the distinct
literary norm and the different alphabet are part of it. A distinct
literary norm does not just entail "politically motivated nationalist
nonsense", but it might also entail a different set of dialects as
basis for the standard language. This is very much the case with
Yiddish, which is essentially a West Middle German dialect, while the
German standard language has a much broader dialectal basis.

You're absolutely right there, when it comes to writing / expression
in high standard. Which is another dialect.

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