Re: In what language do you think?


"LEE Sau Dan" <danlee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"heliogabalus" <forbidden@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

This seems to me impossible too. And how do you
visualise scripts in your mind?

Based on the shapes.

On a dark background? On a paper?

No. Just a shape. A shape could be sensed by touching, or by seeing.
It doesn't matter.
You just need to have a concept of that shape.
Like a circle. When you think about circle, for instance, you don't
have to visualize as something drawn with black ink on white paper.
The circle in my mind doesn't have colours nor size. It's just a
shape. It could be the shape that you feel when touching a coin.
"Circle" is just a mental model. You can map it to a visualized form
or touchable object. But you don't have to. You can even verbalize
it if you like.


Thanks for your answer, it allows me to clarify what I mean for
'thought'. A circle is a visual shape that implies the capacity to
abstract from the inessential particularities of various seen
(perceived) objects to find their common (unperceived, no colours nor
material, 'imagined') characteristic. So, we can't touch a circle, but
we can 'feel' it by touching a coin. This feeling springs from the
imaginative field of our minds. Child is able to visualise shapes in
the pre-verbal stage, and to materialize them in a sketch or in a
touchable object. But he doesn't 'think', he imagines, eventually
manipulates images, and acts accordingly to his imagination, like our
ancestors. Images are the first matter, ontogenically and
phylogenetically, human mind has to do with: something that stands for,
represents, or denotes real objects in the world, and in particular a
common tract of an entire class of objects. Then, mental images are
resumed by sounds, wich transfer the 'concrete' of imagination to the
realm of thought, unfettered from material world. When we imagine 'one'
we need to see a single object representing this individuality, but when
we think 'one' there is no more need to be in contact with the real
world.


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