Re: s->h
- From: "Dušan Vukotić" <dusan.vukotic@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 14 Feb 2007 13:59:53 -0800
On Feb 14, 6:10 pm, phogl...@xxxxxx wrote:
On 14 helmi, 14:37, "Dušan Vukotić" <dusan.vuko...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 14, 12:36 pm, António Marques <m...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Ruud Harmsen wrote:
13 Feb 2007 14:06:28 -0800: phogl...@xxxxxx: in sci.lang:
You cannot be serious! In Irish, the weakening of [s] to [h] is a
regular grammatical feature. I don't know about "plausible development
path", but I reckon even in many varieties of Spanish the weakening of
intervocalic [s] into [h] is a frequent and predictable feature in
rapid speech.
Intervocalic? Or final? I never heard the former.
Well, to an extent, I think I've heard [pa 'ha o] for <pasado>, but it's
certainly not as 'standard' as in final position.
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I would like to here from the high educated people on sci.lang, what
is connection (if any)
None.
Any time you ask a question about the connection of some Serbian word
and a word in some other language, you can rest assured that there is
none.
To be a little less nasty: chance resemblances between languages are
quite common - the classical example being the word "fiu", which means
(if I remember correctly) "son" in both Romanian and Hungarian, but
happens to be an independent development in both languages - the
Hungarian word is a regular development of the Finno-Ugric word found
in Finnish as "poika" (boy, son), the Romanian noun a development of
the Latin "filius" (son).
Which, actually, gives us another chance resemblance: that between the
Finnish "poika" and the English "boy". The words mean roughly the same
and sound the same, but are not related.
You are mostly concerned with building elaborate theories on chance
resemblances of this kind. However, linguists are concerned with
systematic resemblances between words in different languages. This is
something you have never been able to understand or fathom because of
your anti-scientific frame of mind, and this is why you irritate me so
much.
First, FogLoony, if possible, I would have liked to know your real
name. I do not understand people who are coming to certain discussion
groups incognito. What are they afraid of? What kind of fear is
keeping them "safe" under theyr nicknames or no names at all, as it is
case with you FogLoony. According to your weird behavior I assume you
are a recent Moslem convert. Am I right? Yes? You did not convert
yourself to Moslem faith in pursuit of religious beliefs; simply, you
did that conversion from pure utilitarian reasons, are you not? ;-))
Now, let us switch back to our main subject: all the words you quoted
above belong to the same "genus". More than a half of Hungarian
vocabulary is of Slavic origin. All is clear here: Serbian name Bojan
(female Bojana), 'vojnik' and 'bojnik' (soldier), 'de-vojka' (maiden),
'bijenje' (fighting).
English 'boy' is in fact a young man, warrior, ready for fighting
(Serb. 'boj' fight, bojnik/vojnik soldier). Latin 'filius' is not
incidentally very close to the English word 'bull' (Greek βους,
βοεικος /modern Greek βόδι ox/, Latin 'bovinus, bovina /of oxen,
cows/). ;-))
This is perfect example for a set of phonetic changes among different
European languages. Just you have to start from the primeval Bel-Gon
basis!!! :-)
DV
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