Re: More Etymology!
- From: "Franz Gnaedinger" <frgn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 20 Feb 2007 00:10:33 -0800
On Feb 19, 9:33 pm, "mike3" <mike4...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Pah. You just ignored every bit of accepted and
proven linguistic derivations right there.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?l=g&p=4:
"German (2)
"Teuton," 1530, from L. Germanus, first attested in writings of Julius
Caesar, who used Germani to designate a group of tribes in
northeastern Gaul, origin unknown, probably the name of an individual
tribe. It is perhaps of Gaulish (Celtic) origin, perhaps originally
meaning "noisy" (cf. O.Ir. garim "to shout") or "neighbor" (cf. O.Ir.
gair "neighbor"). The earlier Eng. word was Almain or Dutch. Their
name for themselves was the root word of modern Ger. Deutsch (see
Dutch). Roman writers also used Teutoni as a German tribal name, and
Latin writers after about 875 commonly refer to the German language as
teutonicus. See also Alemanni. The German shepherd (dog) (1922)
translates Ger. deutscher Schäferhund "
If you Magdalenian thing works, why do you
propose TWO different roots? Never mind that
the "etymology" you give feels contrived
specifically to insult the person. Ad hominems
do NOT prove anything and in this case the
bullet you fired ended up hitting your Magdalenian
bag and now the last bit of water left inside
has leaked out.
Young man of the fiery spirit, welcome back in
your own thread. Consulting online dictionaries
won't do, you must look up the bulky volumes
in university libraries, as I do, then you'll find
that many words are explained in different
ways by different authors. Etymology is a lot
of guesswork, and when a convincing solution
is missing, authors propose the next best root.
Now, thanks to my Magdalenian approach to
early language, I can propose new and better
solutions, for example in the case of 'German':
GER MAN --- lance (ger) right hand (man),
he who holds a lance in his right hand ...
'Allemanni' is a little more complicated, it
means: all men. I don't know whether alle-
got a Magdalenian root, while -manni comes
from Magdalenian MAN --- right hand (Latin
manus, French main for hand), pars pro toto
for a man (cf. hand for worker, for example
a farm hand). I still wonder about the origin
of Deutsch, Teutones, and I have something
in mind that I only whisper to you, Mike, so
please keep it for yourself. This name may
come from DAI --- protected area, and from
TON --- to make oneself heard, so DAI TON
could have been the name of a Germanic tribe
whose leaders (those who made themselves
heard) gathered for their meetings not in the
open field, under a couple of oak trees, for
example, but in a protected area. Now please,
Mike, don't tell this to anyone, for the time being
it is a secret among the two of us.
.
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