Re: does Spanish have a "going-to" future?

Ekkehard Dengler wrote:
"Harlan Messinger" <hmessinger.removethis@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Lars Skovlund wrote:
On 2007-03-14, phoglund@xxxxxx <phoglund@xxxxxx> wrote:
On 14 maalis, 14:48, "Ekkehard Dengler" <E...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Bush said to the president of Guatemala, "Que vamos a cenir?" Is that
Spanish, or some Tex-Mex mishmash?
It's actually Spanish, except that "cenir" should be "cenar".
Interestingly,
while Spanish has a "going to" future, Catalan has a "going to" past
tense.
Yup. The Catalan "vaig menjar" means exactly the opposite of the
Spanish "voy a comer". Note however that there is no "a" in the
Catalan construction.
As there isn't in Portuguese either. So we have the following set of
meanings:
Language Sentence Meaning

Spanish voy a comer I'm going to eat
Portuguese vou comer I'm going to eat
Catalan vaig comer I have eaten/ate

It's an interesting development, certainly.
Catalan is more confusing that. It has "vaig comer" = "I ate", AND it
has "vaig a comer" = "I'm going to eat".

Thanks, Harlan, that must have slipped my mind.

Portuguese has, in addition, "andar" + present participle ("vou
falando") but I don't recall its significance.

Something like "I keep talking", but "vou" is from "ir", not "andar". "Ando
a falar" roughly means "I've been talking".

Oh, my recollection was confused. The suppletions are different in each language. In Catalan, the infinitive to which "vaig" belongs is "anar"., and in Italian as well, "andare" is the infinitive that goes with "vado, vai, va". In Spanish, I know it's a separate verb altogether from "ir" but forgot which was the situation in Portuguese.
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