Re: Anyone conversant in English (was: Tagalog) here?

On Apr 17, 10:39 am, "Jens S. Larsen" <jens_s_lar...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
phogl...@xxxxxx:

Padraic Brown wrote:
On 16 Apr 2007 03:26:48 -0700, phogl...@xxxxxx wrote:
English has long ago ceased to belong to native speakers alone. It's
us - the second-language speakers - who will set the standards from
now on, not them. We outnumber them.
Could be -- but the misuses of ESL users won't become Standard. They
will always be the subject of how _not_ to use the language.
You are being very unrealistic now, my friend. The language will
become increasingly tolerant of irrelevant solecisms which do not

That looks like an instance of "language" used in the sense of "speech
community".

impair the mutual understanding - such forms as "runned" and
"teached", for instance. Eventually they will become standard, and
"run" and "taught" will pass into obsolescence.

Or -ed will pass into obsolescence. "Ran" seems to have already.

What has _actually_ happened in colloquial American English, as
opposed to phoglund's fantasies, is that in the strong verbs the past
participle has generally taken over for the simple past: "I seen him
yesterday."

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