Re: Armenian, Sumerian, Burushaski, and Turkic languages

On Jun 15, 3:27 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 14, 8:52 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Stop saying that, you lying piece of swiss.

Stop calling me a liar. You are always distorting
my views. Do I call you a liar? am I spouting
invectoves as you do? No, I take my time correcting
your - sometimes gross - distortions of my opinions,
time and again. So if I am wrong about compounds
in PIE, tell me of PIE reconstructions that turn a word
into a compound, like aqua AC CA that became the
Indo-European earth goddess akka (Pokorny), Latin
aqua for water, Vedic Sanskrit aGkAGka for water.
Show me a case where a word like folk or people
is explained in the way I propose: POL PLO polplo
po(l)plo poplo populus popolo peuple people,
POL DOK poldok pol(do)k folc folk Volk,
and so on. Show me such a case of a figurative
compound. And stop calling me a liar.

You lie every time you claim Indo-Europeanists do not deal in
compounding.

Of course I can't show you examples of compounding that resemble your
fantasies, because there is nothing in the data to suggest those
particular sorts of decompositions.

So you do admit that it's pure invention, total fantasy.

Why do you plague sci.lang with it?

Why don't you go to a conlang newsgroup, where they love such things?
Why don't you write a novel that couldn't help being better than *Clan
of the Cave Bear*?

You now a lot about linguistics, I know quite
a lot about language. So I am right in sci.lang
while you should go to sci.ling.

You don't consider that the hostile reactions you receive from actual
linguists suggest otherwise?

If you devoted _half_ the energy to writing that novel, you could earn
quite a respectable income as a novelist. I literally threw *Clan of
the Cave Bear* across the room (it was a paperback) around page 60,
when it turned out that the Neanderthal heroine got all her knowledge
of the world from "intuition" "communicated" from her ancestors.
Whereas in your novel, they could speak your fantasy language and it
would be almost as well worked out as any of Tolkien's.

Then it's not a compound word.

AC and CA are words of theit own, AC CA is
a compound, the two inverses belong together.
I could write AC-CA, but I find it not very elegant.

If there is a pause between the "components," then it's not a
compound. Human utterances do not contain "pauses" between morphemes
or even between words.

Well, 15,300 BP is certainly a better date than "way before 5000 BP."

I did not say 15 300 BP, I say the time horizon
of the PIE reconstruction *akwa 'water' is 5 300 BP,
while the time horizon of AC CA is about 10 000 BP.

Yet, over 10,000 years, there was no change in either the vowels or
the consonants? Yet you claim your invention somehow resembles human
language??

You never bothered about my concept of the
verbal morphospace, a loan from biology.

Of course not. It's idiotic.

Biological phyla that have been separated
over five hundred million years ago develop
similar features, for example eyes, which mean
there is a deep homology that can't be explained
with Darwinian evolution. Remember Stephen
Jay Gould's mantra "stasis is data." There is
also stasis in language, stasis _and_ change,
evolution, and development.

I go on replying to you, despite your poisonous
invectives, because as a scientist I stand above
invectives. But know that I lost my former respect
and sympathy for you.

You are no scientist. You could be a novelist.

.

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