Re: Sanskrit jan and English birth
- From: "Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kriha@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 20:29:56 +1200
"Dušan Vukoti" <dusan.vukotic@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Jul 6, 10:56 am, "Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>messagenews:hq2dneNU->ogM3BDbRVnzvQA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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"Trond Engen" <trond...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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On 5 heinä, 19:02, Dusan Vukoti <dusan.vuko...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What about Serbian pora-djati (giving birth)
Obviously po- is the prefix and -radjati is the verb part (cf. -
rodit', -rodzic' in Russian and Polish). Sometimes I really wonder
whether you are really that stupid or just irritating us.
He is stubbornly ignoring the prefigating system, although it's
perfectly transparent and still productive (or so it seems to this
non-native). Thinking of it, do we have more than his own word to
support that he's really a native speaker of a Slavic language -- and
not some Jai Maharaj clone trying to outserb the Serbs?
My impression is that he is a (native) speaker of modern
Serbian. I also believe that he hasn't studied any other
contemporary or ancient Slavic languages. His understanding
of Slavic word morphology is totally weird and wilfully childish.
pjk
Trond Engen
- hyphenating
OK sage, would you tell me are the words like Latin prognatus prefixed
or not; pro + gnatus?
I dunno.
I haven't studied enough Latin to cast judgements re L. prefixes.
There is an English word "prognathous" (or "prognathic")
[C19: from pro- (before) + Greek gnathos (jaw)]
When it comes to W.Slavic I am confident that my hit rate of
identifying what is a prefix and what is a root runs close to 100%.
However, since I know only little Latin or Greek, I am not even
sure if "gnatus" or "prognatus" is anything but a name.
I would be only guessing if I said that "pro-" is a prefix and
"Prognatus" is a name given to Greeks with big chins
or Romans who were born prematurely. :-)
Compare Latin gnatus and natus; also praegnatis,
paegnantem; prae (before) + gnatus, gnasci (be born);
Serbian bremenita (with child, pregnant). ;-)
Bremenita tišina (pregnant pause) follows.....
DV
p.s.
Modern Serbian is older than Old Serbian or OCS, because the
Serbian linguist and language reformer, Vuk Kardzic, turned it
back to its oldest "shepherd" form. OCS is the language modeled
for the ecclesiastic needs and purposes; as such OCS must have
been "decorated" in order to achieve its desirable mystical
attributes. ;-)
Yeah, right!
pjk
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