Re: English as a creole.

On Jul 17, 8:40 pm, Yusuf B Gursey <y...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 16, 10:10 am, phogl...@xxxxxx wrote:



On 16 heinä, 16:16, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jul 16, 6:53 am, phogl...@xxxxxx wrote:

On 16 heinä, 10:52, Andrew Woode <andrew_wo...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Maltese <ie> are fromArabic/a:/ if I remember rightly.

Yes, they have some fancy name for that a -> ie inArabic, it is a

ima:la

Yes, that is what I was thinking of.

Not just dialects. Classical and Standard also.

Would you please elaborate? I always thought that a long aaaa in

the phoneticfeature was recognized by the early grammarians, hence its
legitimization.

How early? Al-Sibawaihi kind of early?



Standard or ClassicalArabicis a long aaaa, period. But I readily
admit my profound, shameful and blasphemous ignorance of the noble
tongue, earnestly hoping that your lordship would be as merciful as to
light the lamp of your wisdom in the impenetrable desert night of my
ignorance.

regular process in some dialects. Well, I reckon the default authority
is Joseph Aquilina, and he gives Italian and Sicilian as the source of
Mt missier. And there are Romance words in Mt with -ie-, such as
bersaljier.-

The _musawwir_ suggestion appeared to date from the 1930s. There may
have still been some back then who thought Maltese was the descendant
of Phoenician, which was the view in the mid 19th century.

There are some even today (you will find out about that by googling a
little), but they seem to be either anti-Arab and anti-immigration
nationalists or grinders of some other political axe, such as the pro-
Israeli one. Outside serious linguistic circles, it still seems to be
a relatively widespread and popular idea.


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