Re: Subtitutes for English /T/ and /D/

On Jul 20, 3:55 am, "John Atkinson" <johna...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Seems to me there must be a reason why Peter claims the difference
between [T D] and [f v] is "almost inaudible" while others here
(including me) find it quite obvious.

Perhaps it's dialectal thing. For example, in Britain (and Australia) T
and D are dental fricatives, made with the tip of the tongue behind the
upper front teeth, while many (most?) Americans use interdental
fricatives, with the tip of the tongue protruding between the teeth.
They don't sound quite the same, and ISTM that the latter sounds a
little more like [f v].

In Jesus Christ Superstar (musical, not movie), when Pilate sings
"what do you mean by that", I don't hear [D] in "that"; I hear [d[]. I
don't hear [D] when the Bee Gees sing "Whether you're a brother or
whether you're a mother, you're stayin' alive"; here again, I hear
[d[]. I hear [D] primarily in terminal contexts like when Pink Floyd
sings "breathe, breathe in the air".

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  • OT: "Jesus Christ Superstar"
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  • Re: OT: "Jesus Christ Superstar"
    ... and D are dental fricatives, made with the tip of the tongue behind the ... with the tip of the tongue protruding between the teeth. ... I may be confusing Herod with Judas.) ...
    (sci.lang)
  • Re: Subtitutes for English /T/ and /D/
    ... and D are dental fricatives, made with the tip of the tongue behind the ... while many Americans use interdental ... with the tip of the tongue protruding between the teeth. ...
    (sci.lang)