Re: Albano-Illyrian language theory?
- From: Dušan Vukotić <dusan.vukotic@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:43:48 -0000
Albano-Illyrian language theory?
You are not ashamed, you are afraid to answer the questions I have
been asking you, because you know that my statements (below) cannot be
rebutted.
1) Illyrian "langage" is based on a handful of words, which, by the
way,
could be completely assigned to the Slavic vocabulary
http://vukotic.atspace.com/illyr.htm
2) Slavs were inhabitants in Balkan long before the New Era. All the
toponymy of Balkan is completely Slavic, partly changed through the
influence of Greek and Latin.
3) Have you heard for the medieval Slavic tribe in Greece called
Velegezites. Could they not be related to the ancient Pelazgian
tribe?
The fact is, we can say what ever we want and we could even think
that
we are aliens from some other galaxy. The problem is appearing when
we
are challenged to prove our claims.
4) As a matter of fact, Albanian is entirely distinct from any
European
language. It seems nobody cares to explain the Albanian-Mordvin
correspondences:
[...Alb. en? “vessel” – Mord. en’a “scoop”; Alb. kap?rdij “swallow” –
Mord. kapordams “swallow”; Alb. kofsh? “thigh”– Mord. kacho “thigh”;
Alb. keqe “evil” – Mord. k’azh “evil”; Alb. bizele “peas” – Mord.
pizel “berries of mountain ash”; Alb. rroj “to live” – Mord. erjams
“to live”. Some Albanian-Mordvin connections have parallels in other
languages too: Alb. tani “today” – Mord. tjani “now” (Mari tenij
“today”, Estonian täna “today”); Alb. dob?t “quiet” – Mord. topafks
“sated” (Mari typ “quiet”); Alb. turi “muzzle” – Mord. trva
“lip” (Mari tjarvö “lip” ); Alb. bretkos? “frog” – Mord. vatraksh
“frog”...] - an excerpt from the Valentin Stetsyuk's "Introduction to
the
Study of Prehistoric Ethnogenic Processes in Eastern Europe" ...
Mordvian belong to the Finno-Ugric group of languages. The above
correspondences could not be taken as a pure chance resemblance. Do
you know how the Albanians practically realized their contacts with
the
Volga's Mordvians?
4) Can you not be serious? Linguistic is science, not folk
amusement!
Why did you not say that Zeus came from the Albanian word Zog (bird,
chicken); it could be more plausable! Atena is more probably related
to the Albanian word thinjë (turn grey), thinjem (graying hair); as
you knoe Athena is goddess of wisdom and wisdom was once unthinkable
without the gray hair. ;-)
5) Do you know that Leibnitz was named Lipnizza in the 10th century;
and
because Lipnica is a clear-cut Slavic name some Austrian "scientist"
invented story about certain "Illyrian culture" of 2200 years ago. Of
course, real scientists know well how the truth looks like ¾ Bavarian
settlers absorbed the previous Slavic population. As for Leibnitz,
philosopher, I am sure that he never heard about some tribe called
Albanians in Balkan; if he eventally mentioned Albanians in relation
with Illyrians it could only be the ancient tribe Albanoi and not the
modern Albanians. When Leibnitz was alive (second half of the 17th
and
the beginning of 18th century) no one in Europe were aware of the
Albanian being (in the sense of an existent and living nation).
6) Who is G. Meyer? Maybe he is grandfather of Harvey E. Mayer, one
of
the main pranks among the modern lingo-scientist?
7) Folk etymology again...(!!) I would like to hear what Ivan
Duridanov
would say about the history of name of ancient Dardanians?
8) Slavic volk, of course. If the name Ulcinj were derived from
Albanian
ujk (wolf) this city would be named Ujkin not Ulkin/Ulcinj...
9) He, he... Are you really so unintelligent or you believe that all
people around you are fools? You forgot bronze, Latin Brindisium,
German Brunst (fire), Serbian purenje/prženje (burning), English
burn;
cf. Greek πυρωπος/pyropus (bronze, fiery). Italian town Brindisi was
named according to the Greek word for bronze - μπρούντζοσ ( brundzos),
adjective μπρούντζινος. DV
10) Absolutely wrong. All those words are more related to the Aramaic
daḥrānāy (hard) than to Albanian dre. Albanian dre is a loan word
from Greek dorkas/zorkas; Serbian srna/srndac...
Finally, only ultimately unintelligent or uneducated people can
believe in Albanian Shqip-Illyrian fairy tale.
1. Italliota says: [...Unfortunately, the people who had once beenour
allies and who possessed the same rights as citizens and the same
religion, i.e. the _Albanians and_the_Latins_, who live in the
Italian
regions of our Empire beyond Western Rome, quite suddenly
becameenemies when Michael Dokenianos insanely directed his command
againsttheir leaders...]
2. Ana Komnnena: [..."Robert was being worried on all sides by the
SO-
CALLED Albanians and by the NATIVES of Dalmatia sent by Bodinus".
3. Albanian originally does not belong to the IE branch of
languages.
DV
.
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