Re: Subtitutes for English /T/ and /D/

On Jul 22, 8:40 am, Ruud Harmsen <realemailons...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Sun, 22 Jul 2007 05:12:57 -0700: "Peter T. Daniels"
<gramma...@xxxxxxxxxxx>: in sci.lang:

Nathan is trying to tell you that
phonemic change does not occur instantaneously, but spreads among a
population.

It does.

Which of the two statements above are you agreeing with?

At any one moment, any individual idiolect-speaker has
either the pre-change or the post-change system.

No, because which system applied isn't a binary, digital question, but
an analogue matter.

You really ought to stop flaunting the fact that you don't understand
what "phoneme" means.

That too is a gradual process. And if in its environment the child
detects an intermediate stage of a gradual process, it'll learn and
copy that intermediate state.

What is an "intermediate state" between having a distinction and not
having it?

Exactly that. You are beginning to understand the problem and see
reality.

You, however, aren't.

You didn't answer the question.

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