Re: Subtitutes for English /T/ and /D/

On Jul 22, 7:00 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 22, 12:49 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Jul 22, 11:25 am, Seán O'Leathlóbhair <jwlaw...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jul 22, 1:10 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jul 22, 4:54 am, Dominic Bojarski <dominicbojar...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Jul 22, 6:44 am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jul 21, 9:29 pm, Dominic Bojarski <dominicbojar...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

<snip>

They were all taken aback when they first heard Poles using this
pronunciation. Even the one from London, who has probably heard it all
his life (48 years). As a matter of fact, he's the one who had the
biggest problem with it.

Duh. That's what I've been saying all along. ONLY the "one from
London" (scil. only the Brit) is aware of and attuned to the
particular negative sociolinguistic trait of [f] for /T/.

The "one from London" - I guess that's me.

Well, thanks to Dominic's intemperate snippage, we don't know who his
"They" is (and I can't go back to a previous decad of postings in this
thread, thanks to google groups), but I don't think he was referring
to contributors to this thread.

It turns out that "they" referred to

"ALL of my native speaking agree, whether they're from the States,
Canada, Ireland, Northern Ireland, England, South Africa or
Australia",

so we still don't know who he was talking about.

Sorry. Typo. I deleted the word "colleagues" during a cut and paste.
It should read "native speaking colleagues".

Dominic Bojarski

.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: Bombers v. terrorists
    ... >>London has better doner kebabs, I think we can all agree. ... >America in this respect, as is most of Europe -- Northern Ireland, ... >which has a high murder rate by European standards but a fairly low ... Casually musing on this has lead to thoughts drifting through my mind ...
    (alt.usage.english)
  • Re: Visiting Multiple countries (England, Scotland France)
    ... UK visa valid for England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. ... Try to fly in to London, and fly back to the US from Paris. ...
    (rec.travel.europe)
  • Re: Photography - suspicious behaviour?
    ... I wonder if his colleagues put as much effort into photographing all the ... police who marched through London in the recent demonstration, ...
    (uk.railway)
  • Re: Hi from sunny Madrid .. and Zaragoza
    ... Kuwait and Qatar this week. ... Northern Ireland and London this week; ...
    (uk.rec.motorcycles)
  • Re: Subtitutes for English /T/ and /D/
    ... Even the one from London, who has probably heard it all ... As a matter of fact, he's the one who had the ... thread, thanks to google groups), but I don't think he was referring ... Canada, Ireland, Northern Ireland, England, South Africa or ...
    (sci.lang)