Re: Some questions about Swedish language
- From: franek <franek55@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:13:37 -0700
- The contamination of meaning is known from both Danish and Dutch, and
could be old.
This contamination is also known from German, which originally had two
distinct verbs, but one of them has only survived in dialects.
Some forms of these verbs sounded alike and they tended to merge, and
indeed,
the surviving one seems to have inherited the meaning of the obsolete
one:
durren (obsolete) = icelandic þora / swedish töras / dare
http://germazope.uni-trier.de/Projects/WBB/woerterbuecher/dwb/wbgui?word=durren&lemid=GD07038
dürfen (surviving) = icelandic þurfa / swedish tarva (+töra) /
originally: need; today: may, (+dare)
http://germazope.uni-trier.de/Projects/WBB/woerterbuecher/dwb/wbgui?word=durfen&lemid=GD07000
Today Standard German usually distinguishes:
- dürfen = may, be allowed to (+regionally: dare)
- bedürfen = need
- er dürfte kommen = han torde komma (uncertainty)
Swiss German dialects show several patterns:
- i törf = I may / (no trace of dare)
- i tör = I may / i tar = I dare
- i tar = I may + I dare
.
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