Re: nasal m and n

Bart Mathias wrote:

Those are *very* different vowels. The one in "femme" is more open and

Back? French must have changed a lot since I took it in the middle of the last century, when I was taught to say something pretty close to [fEm].

When I got my french, it was kOm, fam, v@~. Nowadays, they'll have us believe that it's vE~. It's just not the same vowel as in maire.

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