Re: nasal m and n



Ruud Harmsen wrote:
Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:33:03 +0000: António Marques <m.ap@xxxxxxx>: in
sci.lang:

Bart Mathias wrote:

Those are *very* different vowels. The one in "femme" is more open and
Back? French must have changed a lot since I took it in the middle of the last century, when I was taught to say something pretty close to [fEm].
When I got my french, it was kOm, fam, v@~. Nowadays, they'll have us believe that it's vE~. It's just not the same vowel as in maire.

The French word <femme> is a special case, it sounds as if written as
<famme>.

That's all very well, but is there any french dialect where the vowel of vin is remotely like the one of maire? Except for nasalisation, obviously.

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