Re: Do Eskimos count like New Guineans?

On 11 Jan, 14:32, "benli...@xxxxxxxxxx" <benli...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 10, 9:31 pm, richard01 <richardparke...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On 10 Jan, 04:49, benlizross <benli...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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That is what I am trying to do, with just one set of related words, in
each language. It's no Grand, pre-conceived Theory

Well, it's one big and apparently immovable pre-conceived assumption.

No, it's not. It's gone from the germ of an idea, reinforced by every
bit of evidence that I've found since.



comment about theory was that your archaeological predictions are
in conflict, not with somebody's grand migration theory, but with the
basic radiocarbon dates for earliest settlement. Settlement of Rapanui
looks earlier than New Zealand, not later.

What carbon dates are known for first settlement of Rapanui or NZ?

And you have at most a 300
year interval between settlement of Vanuatu and settlement of
Polynesia.

I don't have that 300 yr interval, at all - only the pottery daters
do. I don't believe Vanuatu was first settled by (dateable?) pottery
makers, but by much earlier voyagers who had nothing to leave that
could be found by archaeologists (no stones, no pots). Those hunter-
gatherers were pushed south by later immigrants, and their remnants
are still surviving in New Caledonia, Erromonga and Tanna. This is an
established and well known pattern in other Austronesian immigrations,
in the Philippines, Sulawesi, etc, where newcomers pushed earlier
settlers from the coast towards the interior. Vanuatu doesn't have
much of an 'interior' but the pattern of new number system adoption in
Santo fits that process very well indeed.

If you start talking about "sea gypsies" in early Vanuatu,
that just makes it worse.

I think you're over-doing the ridicule with that statement.

Why the hell do you think I'm persisting with this tiny, little,
unimportant, very tedious study if I didn't think there might be
something worthwhile to be gained from it?

regards

Richard
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  • Re: Do Eskimos count like New Guineans?
    ... It's no Grand, pre-conceived Theory ... basic radiocarbon dates for earliest settlement. ... I don't believe Vanuatu was first settled by pottery ... could be found by archaeologists ...
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  • Re: Do Eskimos count like New Guineans?
    ... 'first settlement date' almost anywhere east of Buka, ... vastly overblown by archaeologists, who don't have much more than pots ... earliest human inhabitants of Vanuatu. ...
    (sci.lang)
  • Re: Do Eskimos count like New Guineans?
    ... Polynesia, nor that Maori left central Polynesia before Rapanui. ... 'first settlement date' almost anywhere east of Buka, ... vastly overblown by archaeologists, who don't have much more than pots ... earliest human inhabitants of Vanuatu. ...
    (sci.lang)
  • Re: Do Eskimos count like New Guineans?
    ... Polynesia, nor that Maori left central Polynesia before Rapanui. ... 'first settlement date' almost anywhere east of Buka, ... vastly overblown by archaeologists, who don't have much more than pots ... earliest human inhabitants of Vanuatu. ...
    (sci.lang)
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