Re: Illyrian prefix an-

On Feb 10, 7:33 am, "Douglas G. Kilday" <fufl...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 28, 2:54 pm, Franz Gnaedinger wrote:





On Jan 28, 9:52 am, Franz Gnaedinger wrote:
On Jan 27, 3:46 am, "Douglas G. Kilday" wrote:

Krahe equated Daunus with Faunus, both from *dhaunos, to which he
assigned the meaning 'wolf' (for reasons unknown to me).

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Mallory and Adams 2006 give dhohaus (small a) 'wolf,
Phrygian daos 'wolf', Greek thos 'jackal; wild dog; panther',
wherefrom Latin faunus 'deity of forests and herdsmen',
Neo-Latin fauna. Fauns were deities of wildlife, outdoors,
beyond settlements and farmland, men-goats, very
potent in the sexual sense, origin of numinous voices
and also of nightmares, then also worshipped as deities
of prophecy. What have wolves, foxes, and fauns in
common? I guess it's their connection with the numinous.
Foxes live in the underground; Pluton's animal was the
dog; the Iranian followers of Zarathustra still use dogs
for finding out whether someone really died, or whether
the soul lingers on; and in ancient Egypt a canine,
either dog or jackal, Anubis, was the god of enbalming;
and the fauns were the origin of numinous voices.
Able to stay in contact with the numinous and link
it with our world would then have been the meaning
of DhAG NOS 'able minded'. By the way, another
root of wolf words must have been KAL for the
Underworld, which was doubled kal kal, and then
modified, kwel kwel, ... *wlkwo/wlpo (or so) 'wolf'.

Thanks.  I don't have Mallory and Adams, but the on-line Pokorny has
their citations under *dhau- 'würgen, drücken, pressen' (IEW S. 235),
*dhaunos 'Wolf' als 'Würger' im lat. GN Faunus ... illyr. Daunus ...

According to Xur-Bel-Gon Human Speech Formula OSl. daviti (würgen,
choke, strangle) comes from the Gon-Bel-Gon primeavl basis:Serbian
dubina (deepness), dubljenje (deepening), topljenje/utapanje/davljenje
(choking, suffocation); the Serbian verb 'tonuti' (sink; from tolnuti;
dubljina => dolina /dell/; duplja /hollow/); cf. Serb. tonjenje /
sinking/ from tonbljenje) is clearly related to 'dubina' (deepness;
from gnu-blji-na, Russ. глубина/glubina), 'davljenje' (choking,
suffocation) and the first syllable in 'ton-uti' is present in the
word of Dunav (from Serbian 'du(n)blje' (deep). It means that Latin
Danubius (Danube, Ger. Donau, Celt. Danuvius, Srb. Dunav) is the name
related to "deepness", "deep water", "hollow" (cf. Irish Dublin;
Serbian place names Dubica, Dublje, Dumnica, river Tamnava; Slov.
Dolenjsko...).

A few years ago I supposed that Danube was named like that according
to the Serbian words 'dunuti' and 'duvati' (both with the meaning
"blow" (in sense of "an impact" or "a strong current of air"; Russ.
дуновение/dunavenie flatus, blowing). The Serbian noun
'duvanje' (breath, huffing, blow) is logically related to the words
'davljenje' (choking, suffocation), topljenje (choking, suffocation,
melting*), first because of the hardened breathing we can hear in the
process of choking (daviti /choke/ => duvati /blow), while the second
meaning (duvati /strike/) came as a process of deepening (dubljenje;
dubiti deepen, dleto chisel) of the solid surface that would be
impossible without a "blowing impact" (Serb. taban "the sole of the
foot", tabanje "tramping"; cf. English tap; "tap one's memory", "he
was tapping his fingers"; Serb. dobovanje /tapping/, doboš /drum/).

Finally, we can bring a final conlusion that it doesn't matter was the
Danube named in accordance with its "deepness" (most plausible) or
"du(n)vanje" (blowing; there are strong vinds on Danube; Russ.
dunavenye), because both words were born from the same Gon-Bel-Gon ur-
basis and both meanings are logically acceptable.

DV

* Serbian words topljenje (thaw!, melting), tonjenje (sinking),
tanjenje (getting thinner), tanak (thin!) toplo (warm, tepid!) are
clearly related to the words dubljenje (deepening), debljanje (getting
thicker!; as an opposition to thin) in sense of ice formation (***
and thin ice; gain weight, grow fat and grow thinner!)

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