Re: new book on the spread of IE

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:24:49 -0800 (PST), <ekkilu@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote in
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in sci.lang:

On Feb 16, 6:09 am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Feb 16, 12:00 am, ekk...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

On Feb 15, 10:31 am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Feb 15, 10:34 am, ekk...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Case in example. The arrival of voiceless labio-dental
fricative /f/ to Chinese dialects is ubiqutous (this
even happened in Vietnamese, which is not exactly a
Chinese dialect.)

It isn't the least bit a Chinese dialect.

I think I know more about Vietnamese and its
relationship to Chinese than you.

It is very, very obvious that you do not.

Vietnamese is, with not the slightest doubt or question,
an Austroasiatic language, belonging to the Mon-Khmer
division. It has a large number of Chinese loanwords.

You obviously have not been following any of my postings
on Vietnamese and Mon-Khmer. Who has been talking more
about Mon-Khmer here recently in sci.lang if not me? Your
stereotyping people is amazing.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.lang/msg/3ea88b36a314cdd6

This post has absolutely nothing to do with the (lack of)
genetic relationship between Vietnamese and Chinese. The
fact that you even bother to cite it in this connection is a
very good indication that Peter is right.

You know zero Mon-Khmer language yet you want to lecture
someone that can speak a Mon-Khmer language.

<sigh> Another idiot who confuses knowledge *of* a language
with knowledge *about* a language.

As I said, I know more than you do in this area.

Even if every tooth in the head of every speaker of an
Austronesian- speaker were extracted, what effect would
that have on the utterly unrelated Chinese languages?

Get your Chinese stereotype out of your mind. Southern Min
has exactly 6 vowels, just like Austronesian.

This is a complete non sequitur. If you can't even carry on
a simple conversation, what you know or don't know is
irrelevant.

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