Re: Definition of the word Tsiyon ...

On Feb 21, 10:21 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 21, 1:16 am, "Heidi Graw" <hg...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



All I wanted to know was
what the word tsiyon *means?*

Can you answer that for me?

As nobodey can answer your question, let me try.
You know my idea of an Ice Age language that
would have been spoken in Eurasia, from Northern
Spain to Malta in Siberia. The center of this language
would have been the Franco-Cantabrian space, and
it would have been fully formed out in the Magdalenian
period of time. By the end of the Ice Age, hunting
tribes wandered eastward and reached Göbekli Tepe
in southeast Anatolia. Agriculture started nearby,
at the base of the Karacadag, 10,000 years ago.
Göbekli Tepe was the sacred mountain of the earliest
Mesopotamian deities (Klaus Schmidt, excavator of
the biggest sensation in archaeology since Lascaux).
Late Magdalenian (or Middle PIE, whichever you prefer)
influenced languages in Asia Minor, many words found
their way into Hebrew but were then overformed.
Now if I look at Greek Seon Hebrew Tsiyon Old English
Sion Modern English and German Zion I am reminded
of two or perhaps three Magdalenian words:

SAI --- life, existence; German Sein, also Zeit

SIA ---to be well and in good health

IAN --- to mark the place of the entrance
of a future camp

As compound we get SAI IAN or SIA IAN which
would have been polished off to Seon Tsiyon Sion
Zion (Ts- and Z- being emphatic forms). The meaning
you ask for would then be: founding place of a new
camp (or nation) where our tribe can be, live, exist,
live well and be in good health and prosper ... Would
this go along with the meaning you favor?

Panu Petteri Höglund, in another killrating frenzy, just
these minutes? A bleak mind such as you got nothing
to say, you fail utterly when it comes to arguments,
despite the three universities you mention in your online
cv. What an utterly bleak mind you are becomes obvious
from the helpless replies you gave here in this thread.

Heidi, we got a Sion in the French part of Switzerland,
the sunniest town in our country, capital of the Valais,
a beautiful town in a scenic opening of the Rhone
Valley, with a pair of striking hills in the center, the
bigger one is called Tourbillon, with a large castle
on top, the smaller one is called Valère, with a Basilique
on top. The steep southern slope of the Valère, covered
in vine, directly above the Rhone, reminds of the Provence,
one can even see cacti growing on the hot rock. The first
settlement stood on the back of the Tourbillon, Neolithic,
founded some 8,500 years ago. The hills are passed
by a mountain torrent called Sionne, female form of Sion.
I guess the good water of this torrent was crucial for the
Neolithic dwellers of the place. You must know that the
lower part of the Valais is dry, the slopes require irrigation.
In the Middle Ages they built a web of irrigation channels,
partly hewn into rock on the site, partly carved from tree
trunks, all in all 20,000 kilometers, half the circumference
of the earth, built with the help of engineers from the
Aosta valley in NW Italy. The Latin name of Sion was
Sedenum, the German name is Sitten, akin to sit, seat,
settle, and, interestingly, the German name of the torrent
Sionne is Sitter.

A correction regarding my message from yesterday
(which Panu Petteri Höglund just killrated a couple of
minutes ago): The Greek name of Zion in the Septuaginta
has a iota in the middle: Seion. This name suggests
Magdalenian SAI IAN for to mark the place of a new camp
(ian) where we may live, where life (sai) may flourish ...
This could also be the meaning of Sedenum, Sitten,
and Sitter: let us take our seat here ... Sion / Sedenum
/ Sitten is also the seat of a bishop in the arch catholic
Valais.

Magdalenian hunters settled in the lower part of
the Valais as early as 14,000 years ago. The mighty
Rhone glacier melted some 10,000 years ago, revealing
the beautiful lake of Geneva. I guess that descendants
of late Magdalenian tribes settled in Sion.

Now, empty head Panu Petteri Höglund, go for
another kill.
.

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