Re: new book on the spread of IE

On Mar 11, 3:32 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 10, 12:08 pm, analys...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:



The oldest attested cognate is Sanskrit Dyaus from the Rig Veda which
has been dated to anywhere from 1500 B.C. (Western Scholars) to
3000-6000 B.C. mostly by Indian scholars.

Most authors date the written form of the Rigveda to
1 200 BC plus or minus a couple of centuries. Dyaus
means sky, and as origin of Latin deus I propose these
compounds, the first one less probable but still:

DIA IAS --- through, seeing the reason behind
appearances, for example the cause of an illness (dia)
healing, salvation (ias)

DIE IES --- daylight (die) trying to find the basic reality
behind the ever changing appearances (ies)

Latin deus may then be a polished form of the first
and / or the latter compound, meaning about: he
who sees through, recognizes the reason behind
appearances, also the causes of an illness, and is
able to heal that illness / he who sheds daylight and
recognizes the basic reality behind the ever changing
appearances ... My feeling for language tells me that
the latter compound, DIE IES, may also account for
Greek theos (comparative linguists can't link theos
and deus; I think I can, relying on a deeper level).
The name of Zeus, I believe, has another origin:

TYR --- he who overcomes in the double sense
of rule and give / Ss Ey R  Sseyr (Middle Helladic)
/ Sseus (Doric) / Zeus (classical Greek, 1 650 BC)

The classical name of Zeus may then be an emphatic
form of TYR modified toward DIE IES - Sseyr is called
the shining one,  Ss Ey R   Ph A Ai N N O S   (Middle
Helladic, around 1 650 BC, perhaps even earlier).

The oral form of the Rigveda is certainly much older
than the written one, and basic ideas therein go back
to the Ice Age in Eurasia, look up the brillant paper
The Religion of the Indo-Europeans, by Michael Janda,
in the Proceedings of the Seventeenth Annual UCLA
Indo-European Conference. (If you have no access
to this journal you may tell me your snail mail address
via e-mail and I'll send you fotocopies of his paper.)

In the field of comp/hist linguistics, you can safely ignore academics
including the ones you like. They can't search for deep truths given
tenure/publication type restrictions on freedom of inquiry.

In this day and age of google, a motivated amateur is far better
equipped to find the truth.

I for one don't find CO OC so far fetched as the root for cakshu,
watch etc.

Why don't you (instead of arguing piecemeal with the establishment-
types in this ng.)

(1) give your derivations of about 100 basic words in several
languages called IE by the establishment from your roots

(2) Try to derive Greek/Latin/Germanic/Balto-Slavic alone (excluding
Sanskrit, Hittite Tocharian and perhaps Armenian) and see if the
derivations can be made tighter.
.

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    ... has been dated to anywhere from 1500 B.C. (Western Scholars) to ... appearances, for example the cause of an illness ... form of TYR modified toward DIE IES - Sseyr is called ... the same basis as eye (Latin oculus, ...
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