Re: AS gebúr; bauer; neighbour



On Mar 14, 5:17 am, "Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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"Dušan Vukotić" <dusan.vuko...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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"Dušan Vukotić" <dusan.vuko...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Paul J Kriha" ><paul.nospam.kr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>





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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:25:45 -0700 (PDT), Du¹an Vukotiæ
<dusan.vuko...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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in sci.lang:
[...]
Namely, Siedlung is related to Serbian sed(a)lo (seat,
saddle)

Mirabile visu! The jackass actually got one right.

It's bound to happen once in a blue moon.

and this is related to sagnuti (bend, bow);

But of course it couldn't last.

Another brick wall came along in the form of a prefix(sa-)+
stem(gnuti, hnuti, hnouti, or hnu, meaning "to move").
BTW, cognates of this "to move" can be found in many IE
languages. Particularly in Slavic, there are reflexes of it
in hundreds of different words.
pjk

Kriha, your stupidity is immeasurable. Your intellectual ability is
nothing but a rotten idée pre-fixe :-)

I thought you have learned something from our earlier discussins about
words as porod (partus, birth, brat, parthenos) but it seems your
brain is aborting any sound thinking "baby"! Slavic kuka, ugnuti,
pognuti are the same words as English hook and bend (German beugen).
Compare Serb. počinjati, Russ. начать, начинать; Slov. začínať, all
with meaning "begin", and you will "see" that these words are po-, na-
or za- prefixed. These verbs are connected to the nouns pogon (drive),
nagon (impetus), izgon (exodus), iskon (origin, bginning). Following
the logic you used in case of Slavic, I do not understand what is
priventing you to apply the same "pattern" to Germanic be + ginnan.

I know you are not as stupid as you look and that you are far more
intelligent than our copy/paste Brainy:
- compare Latin generatio (from genero beget, produce, bring to life)
and Serbo-Slavic narod (people) and, I hope, you will finally be able
to understand why the words as Serbian porod (birth) and English birth
(Latin partus) are most closely related.
DV

Oh, triffic! All this potpouri of gobbledygook is supposed to convince me that
"Siedlung and Serbian sed(a)lo (seat, saddle) is related to sagnuti (bend, bow)"?

You failed your task again, young grasshopper!

pjk

P.S. Forget for the moment Germanic words like "beugen", etc. Do you
realize you suggested that Slavic words "sed(a)lo" and "sagnuti" were
cognates? Didn't your high school language teacher have anything to
say about OSlavic/PIE stems -sed- and -gnu-?
Tak co profesore?
The root *sed- is absolutely impossible! One of the most important
rules of HSF is that "the dentals originated from velars"; dentals are
not the primal sounds. Slavic sedeti is derived from se/gen- (Serb.
dial. seđenje, siđenje seating; Lat. sessio seat).

Okay, yers in my post got swallowed, so it was *sedь.
Display this quote from Vasmer in UTF-8:

ORIGIN: Праслав. *sedьlo или *sedъlo (ввиду укр. -í-, а также русск., укр. -дл-),
родственно гот. sitls "сидение", д.-в.-н. sеʒʒаl "кресло", лат. sella "сидение",
греч. лакон. ἑλλά ̇ καθέδρα (Гесихий), галльск. -sedlon; с др. ступенью
вокализма: англос. sadol, д.-в.-н. satul, sаtаl "седло" (из *sotlo-, *sodtlo-),
далее связано с сиде́ть (Мейе, Ét. 419; Фик, KZ 44, 341; Траутман, ВSW 259;
Лиден, РВВ 15, 515; Вальде--Гофм. 2, 511). Неправильна реконструкция
праслав. *sedlo и предположение о калькировании д.-в.-н. sаtаl через Чехию,
вопреки Вайану (RЕS 12, 235), что опровергается укр. и ст.-слав.
свидетельствами. Лтш. sęgli (из *sedli) "седло" заимств. из слав.
(М.--Э. 3, 812; Траутман, там же).

You and Brainy are the famous "sound-law experts"... please, would you
tell us (sound-law ignorant) what phonetic changes the Latin word
sessio (Eng. session; Serb. siđenje) has undergone?

Why should I care?

DV

P.S.

Why are you avoiding the answer to my previous "pre-fixed" question?
Do not be afraid to say that you do not know what to say!

Life's too short.

pjk

Why don't you try to find a job as a court jester?
Ars longa, vita brevis! :-)

DV
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