Re: oh mother and Da:d - more Arabic questions

On Mar 19, 3:55 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 19, 6:13 am, Craoibhi...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:



On Mar 15, 1:21 am, Marc <marc.ad...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:34 pm, Yusuf B Gursey <y...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

the phoneme is rare in other languages. ironically the original lateral
pronounciation has been lost, except perhaps in some obscure yemeni
dialects.

"Lateral" pronunciation?

I knew Arabs were sneaky, but to _literally_ talk out of the side of
your mouth? <rim shot>

Marc

"Lateral" refers to L. I think Jussi Aro said in his Arabic textbook
"Arabiaa ilman kyyneliä", that Da:d was once pronounced with a
preceding L, and he mentioned the name of some Arabic god or demon
from the days of old Jahiliyya - the name was ru:Da, but it had been
written "ru-ul-da" in some non-Arabic inscriptions which used a
different alphabet.

That does not mean that there was a "preceding L"! It means that a
lateral component to the sound was heard by the people who wrote the
name in cuneiform.

Oh, of course. Sorry for expressing myself idiotically.


The emphatic lateral is well known in Modern South Arabian' English
[l] is of course a lateral, with the airstream passing both sides of
the tongue; and the voiceless lateral is familiar from Welsh and many
North American languages. In Welsh it's spelled <ll>, as in Llewellyn,
which Shakespeare rendered as Fluellen, because that's what it sounds
like to the English ear. (Likewise Floyd for Lloyd.)



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  • Re: oh mother and Da:d - more Arabic questions
    ... "Lateral" refers to L. I think Jussi Aro said in his Arabic textbook ... That does not mean that there was a "preceding L"! ... In Welsh it's spelled, as in Llewellyn, ... like to the English ear. ...
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  • Re: oh mother and Da:d - more Arabic questions
    ... and he mentioned the name of some Arabic god or demon ... :>: different alphabet. ... :> it's not a preceding l but a lateral component. ...
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