Re: Sana < Thanaa

On May 28, 9:10 am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 28, 10:59 am, mb <azyth...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

What's your evidence for contact between Old French and Arabic?

Some 400 years of loans and language contact history, known to any
high school student. Try Wikipedia under "Crusades" and "Spain".

When did the Old French element enter English?

When were the Crusades?

What does the Andalusian linguistic situation have to do with the
languages of England at the time of the influx of Old French
vocabulary into English?

Try thinking before inserting foot into mouth.

That's what you get when you ask totally absurd questions about a vulg
Latin word with a perfectly well-known pedigree: An answer to your
question. What the hell has any Arabic contact got to do with joyau -
jewel?

[Besides, a good answer to your new question above ("When did the Old
French element enter English?") would be "during the Crusades"]-

Really?

Starts at approx same time. Subsides at approx same time.

Was William on a Crusade in 1066? Did the Norman scribes take
over the English chancery in a geographically misguided attempt to
reclaim the Holy Land from the Saracen?

Irrelevant.

Aside from the minor fact that the Norman element in English is due to
the Conquest and not to the Crusades.

One happened during the other and vice versa. See Messinger's post.


If you hadn't added that idiotic comment, you would seem to have
actually _gotten the point_ that the supposed "Arabic" etymology is
rather silly

No, it's excluded and there is no need to discuss any language contact.

Is that how you respond to your students when they ask you a question?

That is the only possible response: Arabic input in this particular
case is an absurd theory that no one would ever venture into.
Documentation doesn't even have to be provided to students (after
elementary): It's too easy to dig up in corpus + Grandjean; including
a list like the one by Messinger (good job).

Oh, that's right, no one would ever put you in a position to teach
anyone anything.

Now you mention it, some people did. Not a good idea at all: I
couldn't stand the absurdity of it at the end of one year. People
whose primary language is script tend to avoid "physical" teaching
either as teachers or students. Teachers are redundant.
.

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