Re: International Conference on the Phaistos Disk

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
On Jul 9, 11:38 am, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Franz Gnaedinger wrote:
On Jul 8, 1:11 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"The scientific community on the whole" agrees that no "decoding" is
possible.

Progress in our understanding doesn't come from
the scientific community as a whole but from single
gifted people, and if they are ignored - you for
example are judging the book by Derk Ohlenroth
without having much as laid eyes on it - the progress
of the scientific community as a whole is being hold up.

BTW I have seen _almost_ no new postings to any newsgroup since
shortly after 2 pm yesterday (Monday) EDT.

Google may finally have realized what I told them
years ago: publishing a message immediately
lturns a group into a chatroom. For the time being
a message seems to get published only on the
next day. Deja published them hours or a day
later.

As usual, you confuse Google's web-based *interface* for Usenet with
Usenet itself. It has always been normal for postings to appear
immediately. (Why in the world shouldn't they?) It was Deja and then
Google that weren't able to keep up with what everyone with direct
Usenet access had been seeing all along.-

What's "direct Usenet access"?

If your ISP (Internet Services Provider) offers NNTP service
(typically via port number 119, or with SSL secure protocol typically
port 563) you may run Usenet agent such as Outlook Express on
your computer to read the Usenet news items as soon as they arrive
in your ISP's database. Your own contributions are immediatelly
accessible on your ISP's database from where they get distributed
at various speeds all around the Usenet databases throughout the
world. The delays are typically seconds, minutes, tens of minutes,
and only occasionally hours.

The speed depends on the geographical location of you and of
the recipient as well as the momentary properties of the highspeed
highways where the files hop from one node to another.
The geographical distances are often irrelevant, important are
the actual pathways which the items have to traverse to get
from the sender's ISP to the recipient's ISP.

In case you are interested, the actual path taken is recorded
and can be seen in the header of each Usenet news item as
they arrive at your pc.

pjk

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