Re: International Conference on the Phaistos Disk

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
On Jul 10, 3:05 am, "Paul J Kriha" <paul.nospam.kr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Peter T. Daniels wrote:
On Jul 9, 11:38 am, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removet...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Franz Gnaedinger wrote:
On Jul 8, 1:11 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"The scientific community on the whole" agrees that no "decoding" is
possible.

Progress in our understanding doesn't come from
the scientific community as a whole but from single
gifted people, and if they are ignored - you for
example are judging the book by Derk Ohlenroth
without having much as laid eyes on it - the progress
of the scientific community as a whole is being hold up.

BTW I have seen _almost_ no new postings to any newsgroup since
shortly after 2 pm yesterday (Monday) EDT.

Google may finally have realized what I told them
years ago: publishing a message immediately
lturns a group into a chatroom. For the time being
a message seems to get published only on the
next day. Deja published them hours or a day
later.

As usual, you confuse Google's web-based *interface* for Usenet with
Usenet itself. It has always been normal for postings to appear
immediately. (Why in the world shouldn't they?) It was Deja and then
Google that weren't able to keep up with what everyone with direct
Usenet access had been seeing all along.-

What's "direct Usenet access"?

If your ISP (Internet Services Provider) offers NNTP service

How would I know whether it does so? When I switched to DSL two years
ago, I asked the servicepeople about accessing newsgroups and they had
no idea what I was talking about. (yahoo thinks that yahoo groups are
all one needs.)

Caveat emptor!

There are literally hundreds to thousands of various socket/port
sniff and test programs available to run in various OS environments.
(Many downloadable from the web for free.)

You could ping the various ports to see if they answer or you could
simply try to startup a news reader and have it talk to the relevant
port numbers. If the ports answer then you might want to investigate
what newsgroups your provider carries if any. Newsreaders are
usually able to request a complete list of available newsgroups.
It's not a complicated stuff but you'd get it done quicker if you
managed to solicit help from a friendly teenage computer geek.

These days there's great reluctance amongst some ISPs to
carry Usenet. It's quite possible that your ISP doesn't carry
direct access to Usenet database at all.

There are many thousands of different Usenet newsgroups in
existence people might want to read. Some ISPs are reluctant
to maintain several days/weeks/months worth of contributions
on their databases. When they do provide the service it's
traditionally provided for free, that is, for no extra charge.
Now that there are several alternate ways of getting at the
Usenet traffic, however slow, degraded and ergonomically
unfriendly they are, they feel freer not to carry the direct Usenet
service at all.

pjk

(typically via port number 119, or with SSL secure protocol typically
port 563) you may run Usenet agent such as Outlook Express on
your computer to read the Usenet news items as soon as they arrive
in your ISP's database. Your own contributions are immediatelly
accessible on your ISP's database from where they get distributed
at various speeds all around the Usenet databases throughout the
world. The delays are typically seconds, minutes, tens of minutes,
and only occasionally hours.

The speed depends on the geographical location of you and of
the recipient as well as the momentary properties of the highspeed
highways where the files hop from one node to another.
The geographical distances are often irrelevant, important are
the actual pathways which the items have to traverse to get
from the sender's ISP to the recipient's ISP.

In case you are interested, the actual path taken is recorded
and can be seen in the header of each Usenet news item as
they arrive at your pc.
.

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